EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
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EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
You bond with someone by lecturing them? Because I don't . Sure it's okay with most here because they might agree but what would be the response if it were an anti gun lecture? Different picture then huh? If the cop was just chatting then no problem. If he was indeed lecturing then I disagree with it. It's a personal choice to carry that he sure as heck shouldn't have to defend just because he got pulled over.
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
You bond with someone by lecturing them? Because I don't . Sure it's okay with most here because they might agree but what would be the response if it were an anti gun lecture? Different picture then huh? If the cop was just chatting then no problem. If he was indeed lecturing then I disagree with it. It's a personal choice to carry that he sure as heck shouldn't have to defend just because he got pulled over.
It's not like the nephew was being detained while given a lecture, I think you're taking it too far.
It's also possible that "lecture" wasn't the proper word to be used. To have a cop talk about the importance of the general public in helping them accomplish their mission is not at all a bad thing.
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
I bet he saw this as a good mentoring opportunity, and a way to develop a personal bond with a person with whom he may someday have another encounter. It sounded like good policing to me.
You bond with someone by lecturing them? Because I don't . Sure it's okay with most here because they might agree but what would be the response if it were an anti gun lecture? Different picture then huh? If the cop was just chatting then no problem. If he was indeed lecturing then I disagree with it. It's a personal choice to carry that he sure as heck shouldn't have to defend just because he got pulled over.
It's not like the nephew was being detained while given a lecture, I think you're taking it too far.
It's also possible that "lecture" wasn't the proper word to be used. To have a cop talk about the importance of the general public in helping them accomplish their mission is not at all a bad thing.
My nephew had a smile on his face when he used the word lecture so maybe it was more my nephew beating himself up for not carrying than it actually was lecturing by the LEO. Either way it had a positive effect on my nephew and may result in being a life saver for himself or some else in the future.
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EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
TVGuy wrote:
It's not like the nephew was being detained while given a lecture, I think you're taking it too far.
It's also possible that "lecture" wasn't the proper word to be used. To have a cop talk about the importance of the general public in helping them accomplish their mission is not at all a bad thing.
It sounds like he was. I'm supposed to think and respond as if the OP meant something other than he actually said because why? Cop wants to shoot the bull and the other person wants to listen then fine. Cop decides to use a custodial stop to climb on a soapbox, not fine.
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
But it wasn't. You can "what if" all day long.
It was a good encounter between a CHL citizen and a cop. Let's not make it out to be something more.
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
I'm sure the cop assumed that, since the gentleman had a CHL, he wasn't anti-gun. Nothing wrong with a little small take amongst two human beings with a common interest.
EEllis wrote:That's great that the officer is pro chl but where the heck does he or any cop get off by lecturing about anything not pertaining to legal issue? My carry is my business carry-or not. He's a cop not a parent. Not a buddy. We're not hanging out he is making a custodial stop.
You know, you're right. All cops shouldn't talk to anyone besides the matter at hand. Side conversations should not be allowed, don't want to think cops and non-cops share a vested interest in public safety or personal protection. Next time I hope that cop "sticks to the facts", writes a citation and goes on his way like a robot.
Never mind that isn't what I said or anything but a distortion for effect, what if the cops vested interests was anti gun?
But it wasn't. You can "what if" all day long.
It was a good encounter between a CHL citizen and a cop. Let's not make it out to be something more.
Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
John Wayne
NRA Lifetime member
