SB11 & HB910 This week....

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The Huffines Amendment has been posted:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to a person’s possession of
a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a
shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun.
Dutton Amendment:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person
possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a
partially or wholly visible handgun
carried in a shoulder or belt
holster.
The underlines portions are different words, while the bolded portions are the same words but in a different order.

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Inspite of Dutton being more well written, IMHO, the amendments are for the purposes of enforcement, identical. With all due respect, freshman Senator Huffines belonged back on the porch in the debate, and I hope he improves those skills with experience, but how much skill does it take to COPY those few lines correctly?
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HB910 Senate passage as amended reported.

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Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ??

It says nothing else.

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JollyHappyDad wrote:Inspite of Dutton being more well written, IMHO, the amendments are for the purposes of enforcement, identical. With all due respect, freshman Senator Huffines belonged back on the porch in the debate, and I hope he improves those skills with experience, but how much skill does it take to COPY those few lines correctly?
In looking at the two amendments wording Huffines had to be looking at Dutton's amendment when he pinned it. The only reason I can think of to slightly change the wording is ego, he want's to claim it was his amendment. If I'm correct then.....sorry Hufines, as far as I'm concerned the intent was conjured out of Dutton's mind.

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viking1000 wrote:Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ??

It says nothing else.
To the House.
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CJD wrote:
viking1000 wrote:Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ?? It says nothing else.
To the House.
Yup. It goes back to the House for a "concurance"(agreement) vote. They either agree with the amendment or they don't. No debate is allowed. Just voting for/against the bill as the Senate has returned to the House(with the Huffines amendment).

Charles posted in his "Call to Action: HB 910" thread a perfect summation of what is left to be done on the bill, and I'm cross-posting from that thread:

"If the House concurs then it goes to the Governor. If the House doesn't then it goes to conference committee if there is enough time. If there is time and a conference report comes out, then each chamber has an up or down vote. if its close enough to the end of the session, then Democrats will filibuster and the bill dies.

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joe817 wrote:
CJD wrote:
viking1000 wrote:Pardon my loaded question.... Does it have to go to the house still, or does it go to the Governor ?? It says nothing else.
To the House.
Yup. It goes back to the House for a "concurance"(agreement) vote. They either agree with the amendment or they don't. No debate is allowed. Just voting for/against the bill as the Senate has returned to the House(with the Huffines amendment).

Charles posted in his "Call to Action: HB 910" thread a perfect summation of what is left to be done on the bill, and I'm cross-posting from that thread:

"If the House concurs then it goes to the Governor. If the House doesn't then it goes to conference committee if there is enough time. If there is time and a conference report comes out, then each chamber has an up or down vote. if its close enough to the end of the session, then Democrats will filibuster and the bill dies.

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The best thing about Licensed Open Carry is that habitual liar Grisham won't be able to Open Carry.
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v7a wrote:The best thing about Licensed Open Carry is that habitual liar Grisham won't be able to legally Open Carry.
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Touché :mrgreen:
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jmra wrote:
v7a wrote:The best thing about Licensed Open Carry is that habitual liar Grisham won't be able to legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....

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Winchster wrote:
jmra wrote:
v7a wrote:The best thing about Licensed Open Carry is that habitual liar Grisham won't be able to legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
If he does, then yes he can carry. However, he expressly stated on a Guns Over Texas radio program that if licensed open-carry passes, he will have to continue to carry a rifle since he won't be able to carry a handgun. He made that statement as a call-in listener when I was a guest on the show.

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Winchster wrote:
jmra wrote:
v7a wrote:The best thing about Licensed Open Carry is that habitual liar Grisham won't be able to legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
If he does, then yes he can carry. However, he expressly stated on a Guns Over Texas radio program that if licensed open-carry passes, he will have to continue to carry a rifle since he won't be able to carry a handgun. He made that statement as a call-in listener when I was a guest on the show.

Chas.
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Wasn't there also some questions raised about the legality of his OCing in OK? Seems like I heard something about that on the radio program.
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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Winchster wrote:
jmra wrote:
v7a wrote:The best thing about Licensed Open Carry is that habitual liar Grisham won't be able to legally Open Carry.
Red edit is mine
Not to bust any bubbles, but if he has a recognized out of state permit, he could. Right?
If he does, then yes he can carry. However, he expressly stated on a Guns Over Texas radio program that if licensed open-carry passes, he will have to continue to carry a rifle since he won't be able to carry a handgun. He made that statement as a call-in listener when I was a guest on the show.

Chas.
Fair enough
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