Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry
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Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry
The House Parliamentarian has already determined that Campus-carry is germane to HB910 (open-carry). This was done when HB910 was being debated and a campus-carry amendment was offered by Rep. Fletcher. A point-of-order was called, the Speaker overruled it based upon the Parliamentarian's determination, then Fletcher withdrew it for reasons I cannot discuss. It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
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Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry
What's next Charles? wait and see? CTA? Is there time?Charles L. Cotton wrote:The House Parliamentarian has already determined that Campus-carry is germane to HB910 (open-carry). This was done when HB910 was being debated and a campus-carry amendment was offered by Rep. Fletcher. A point-of-order was called, the Speaker overruled it based upon the Parliamentarian's determination, then Fletcher withdrew it for reasons I cannot discuss. It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
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Re: Campus Carry revived, attached to open carry
Expect this to go to the wire unless some very powerful people get some victories on bills that are higher on there priority list. HB910 is now a hostage.
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Yes, hostage to tax bills and boarder security and some other issues I suspect. We heard movement on those issues is in the works??TXBO wrote:Expect this to go to the wire unless some very powerful people get some victories on bills that are higher on there priority list. HB910 is now a hostage.
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Cross post from another thread:
Straus just welcomed Gov. Abbott to the floor. Interesting timing. Hope he can rally some sense into the legislators.
Straus just welcomed Gov. Abbott to the floor. Interesting timing. Hope he can rally some sense into the legislators.
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What happened? Did Abbott say anything encouraging?
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No was just recognized for being on the house floor.Ruark wrote:What happened? Did Abbott say anything encouraging?
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I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
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Patrick wants a reduction in property tax.v7a wrote:I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
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Unfortunately, what he is pushing isn't going to work in my opinion. Rates and appraisals will be increased to offset the increased homestead exemption.TXBO wrote:Patrick wants a reduction in property tax.v7a wrote:I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
Maybe in missing something.
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Regardless of actual net effect, Patrick's number one campaign pledge was a reduction in property tax. His number one priority in this session is to fulfill that pledge.mojo84 wrote:Unfortunately, what he is pushing isn't going to work in my opinion. Rates and appraisals will be increased to offset the increased homestead exemption.TXBO wrote:Patrick wants a reduction in property tax.v7a wrote:I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
Maybe in missing something.
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If it doesn't reduce the amount paid by the property owner, it is not fulfilling his pledge. That is playing a shell game and isn't what he promised.TXBO wrote:Regardless of actual net effect, Patrick's number one campaign pledge was a reduction in property tax. His number one priority in this session is to fulfill that pledge.mojo84 wrote:Unfortunately, what he is pushing isn't going to work in my opinion. Rates and appraisals will be increased to offset the increased homestead exemption.TXBO wrote:Patrick wants a reduction in property tax.v7a wrote:I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
Maybe in missing something.
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That may be the case. I haven't studied that particular bill. My only point is that he is determined to satisfy his promise of property and business tax reduction.mojo84 wrote:If it doesn't reduce the amount paid by the property owner, it is not fulfilling his pledge. That is playing a shell game and isn't what he promised.TXBO wrote:Regardless of actual net effect, Patrick's number one campaign pledge was a reduction in property tax. His number one priority in this session is to fulfill that pledge.mojo84 wrote:Unfortunately, what he is pushing isn't going to work in my opinion. Rates and appraisals will be increased to offset the increased homestead exemption.TXBO wrote:Patrick wants a reduction in property tax.v7a wrote:I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
Maybe in missing something.
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TXBO wrote:That may be the case. I haven't studied that particular bill. My only point is that he is determined to satisfy his promise of property and business tax reduction.mojo84 wrote:If it doesn't reduce the amount paid by the property owner, it is not fulfilling his pledge. That is playing a shell game and isn't what he promised.TXBO wrote:Regardless of actual net effect, Patrick's number one campaign pledge was a reduction in property tax. His number one priority in this session is to fulfill that pledge.mojo84 wrote:Unfortunately, what he is pushing isn't going to work in my opinion. Rates and appraisals will be increased to offset the increased homestead exemption.TXBO wrote:Patrick wants a reduction in property tax.v7a wrote:I realize you might not be able to clarify that until after the session has ended, but I see two possible interpretations of that:Charles L. Cotton wrote:It will be no different if HB910 is amended in the Senate -- but don't hold your breath waiting for Patrick to help.
1. If the spat between House and Senate doesn't get resolved soon there won't be enough time to amend HB910 and get it through concurrence vote in the House
2. Patrick wants to pass HB910 without any amendments so that he gets credit for getting Open Carry to the governor (versus House getting credit for Open Carry AND Campus Carry)
Maybe in missing something.
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