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Would I be willing to pay a small amount for this file?

Yes, I would buy this spreadsheet for a price in the $5-$10 range.
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15%
No, I would not buy this spreadsheet (please explain below).
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56%
Depends (tell me below).
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I would also be interested in a future mobile app.
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I would not be interested in a future mobile app.
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Total votes: 34

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Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

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Abraham, I do get what your saying, so no offense taken. I understand that one person's need to track this stuff might be viewed by others as obsessively compulsive.

In a different day and age, I might not be nearly as concerned about tracking my inventory as I am today; but the changing landscape is what motivated me to tackle this project.

For me, there are two reasons to inventory ammunition: cost-control, and general preparedness.
  • Cost-control:
    When gas prices skyrocket, the best way to reduce your total expenditure on gasoline is to keep your tank full. For instance, if your car has a 20 gallon tank and you fill it up (from empty) at $1.99/gallon, then you've got $39.80 invested in gas. If gas goes up to $2.49/gallon after you fill up and you burn all of your $1.99/gallon gas before refueling, then a fill-up costs you $49.80, and that is the new value of the gas in your tank. However, if gas goes up to $2.49/gallon after the first fill-up, and you refuel when the tank is only half empty, then that fill-up cost you $24.90, and the total value of the gas in your tank is $44.80 (instead of $49.80). By buying more gas when it is cheaper, and less gas when it is higher, you save some money over the long haul.

    Similarly to the gas thing, if you buy more ammo than you need when it is cheap, and you buy less than you actually use when it is more expensive, then your total expenditure on ammo will be less that it is if you only buy ammo on your way to the range.
  • General preparedness:
    If food becomes scarce and you don't have any stored, then you are going to be hungry. If ammo becomes scarce and you don't have any stored, then all of your guns become bricks.

    We currently live under the dictatorial rule of an administration which is doing what it can to make ammo harder to buy (pressure on banks, and pressure on BATFE). NOT storing some ammunition just to have it on hand, and regularly replacing it as you use it, is to consign yourself to having a collection of mechanically complicated bricks.

    I have guns in my home for the same reason that I have fire extinguishers in my home. I have additional ammo stored for the same reason that I keep my fire extinguishers charged up. I have more than one flashlight in the home. I also buy more than one or two batteries at a time. Whenever a flashlight's batteries run down, I can replace them from on-hand inventory, and then replace the inventory when it is both convenient and cost effective.
That said, I do not have enough fire extinguishers or flashlights to make the use of a spreadsheet to track them worth it. But for guns, it is different.

If I only owned one or two guns, in one or two calibers, then I wouldn't really need a spreadsheet for this either. For those who are in that position, then this would probably not be something very useful to you. I understand, and that's OK. But over the years, my wife and I have accumulated a small "collection" of guns. Between us, we own three shotguns in two gauges, eight rifles in four calibers, five revolvers in four calibers, and nine semiautomatic pistols in three calibers. I do understand that this is a lot of guns for some people, but for others it is not really very many guns. In any case, maintaining an standing inventory for that many firearms, both for reasons of cost-control and preparation, is kind of an accounting headache. A decent spreadsheet can make that a lot easier.

That is why I asked for y'alls' opinions. Not everybody has a need for this, and that is OK. But hopefully the poll will give me some indicator of whether or not any existing need makes this worth pursuing for money. Even if there were no demand, I would still design this thing for my own use.

I could probably reduce my gun collection by a significant amount and make my life simpler. The primary reason I hang onto all of these guns is so that my son may have them when I'm gone. And those guns won't have nearly as much value to him either if he has to run out and spend a bunch of money on ammunition for them too. As it is, he could sell off most my guns and keep the ammo for himself and still be sitting pretty, because he already owns guns himself in most of these calibers ......but that's up to him. Right now, he and his wife struggle to meet the mortgage, put food on the table, and raise my granddaughter. They are young, and this is the season of life they are in. My wife and I went through this kind of period in our lives too. Ammo and range trips are lower on his fiscal priority list than keeping the mortgage lender happy, and keeping my granddaughter fed and clothed. They're no different in that regard than lots of other young parents.

Also, range trips are one of our "father/son" activities, and he can't really afford too much ammo. So most of the time we go, it's my ammo we shoot. I don't mind that if it gives me quality time with my son; but it does mean that I keep more ammo on hand for shooting than I would normally shoot myself, and so that also bumps up my inventory needs.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback so far. It is valuable. I've already realized that I've got to add another column or two to this spreadsheet to log in cost at time of purchase when inventory is added, since cost control is one of the reasons for using it in the first place.
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Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

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Sorry TAM, but I did this a few years ago with my ammo and a separate workbook for firearms. The most difficult problem with the ammo one was keeping it up to date. It is not hard to do, but sometimes it is hard to remember to do. There is so much change sometimes between shooting and purchases.

The firearm inventory changes more slowly and is much easier to keep up with. In mine there is one "master" worksheet and each firearm has it's own separate worksheet. In the master sheet are links to the specific firearm's worksheet that includes all pertinent information and pictures for identification purposes.
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Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

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I would happily pay $10 for this - count me in.
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Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

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TAM,

Your point is well taken and if I didn't dislike record keeping so much, I'd probably buy your system.

That said, and what follows may sound a bit wacky, but bear with me.

I'm a birder. (also had been a bird guide for 8 years, though no longer as my voice is shot) There are two types: Those who love being out in the field and viewing the loveliness of birds and nature in general. And, when the day is over they go home with wonderful memories.

Then there are the "Listers". These folks grimly record every detail of every bird, time of day seen, temperature, wind direction, day, month, year and at this point you probably see where I'm going. They don't seem to enjoy the day so much as endure it. I once spotted a lister (big notebook in hand, many pens in shirt pocket) exiting a trail I was about to embark on and I asked if she'd seen any note worthy birds. She angrily snapped at me, that nothing she hadn't seen before. Yikes! No life birds to be seen. Yep, she was angry she couldn't record a new bird in her books.

These folks love record keeping.

I detest record keeping.

No insult to your system, honestly, but if I had to keep up such fine, recorded detail, I'd get out of the hobby.

Heck, I don't even due my own my income tax preparation. I have it done.

Hope that made some sense...?
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Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

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I voted no only because I have already developed my own spreadsheet for firearm and ammo inventory tracking purposes. I use home made spreadsheets for tracking all kinds of things that "normal" people likely don't bother to track.
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I've been using this one for a few years, works great.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/745631/ammo_inventory.xlsx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Well so far, the feedback is that there would not be much interest in this. That's OK, no hard feelings. As I'm working on it, it just seems like it would be useful to someone else.....but it looks like for those whom it would be useful, they've already got it covered.

Oh well. I'll keep developing it for my own use.
I'm just too lazy to fill in all that data. My inventory pretty much consists of a piece of paper with caliber and quantity. Now, I might reconsider if the software automatically populated the data fields by scanning the UPC.

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But then I read through the rest of the comments and realized I'm like Abraham. I detest record keeping. So, even if I could scan in the data, I'd have to keep track of what I shot.....more data entry. I can't even keep up with recording new gun purchases much less new ammo purchases.
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Re: Need Your Opinion for an Idea....

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Is your spreadsheet backward-compatible to VisiCalc Ver. 1? :headscratch

Although your idea has merit, I could not count on myself being sufficiently disciplined to use it to good effect. I only have 2 calibers that I actively use - .22 and 9mm. My inventory method is to look at my stock and decide if I have "enough" for my needs, i.e. to go to the range, for everyday carry, for just-in-case situations, for stockpiling, for the changing political scene, for my paranoia, for apocalyptic scenarios, for..... well you get the picture.

I try to limit my total to what I can reasonably do a scram-out with.
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