9MM Justification; FBI Training Division

[C-dub]

Nothing wrong with a 9mm IF you have the skills to make up for the smaller caliber.

[Excaliber]

This is a very good read, even though it brings tears to the eyes of a die-hard 1911 .45ACP guy. I've been seriously considering switching to an M&P 9 for daily carry because of the greatly increased firepower. (17+1 with 1 or 2 more mags.) I've never worried about the ammo load until the ISIS issue came up. However, the extra ammo could play a role in "ordinary" shootings since it seems thugs have realized that there are more effective with multiple attackers.

My wife carries a Kimber Ultra Carry in .45ACP and she may switch to an M&P 9 Compact. She'd be doing it more because the reduced felt recoil would be easier on her hands. Arthritis is making it somewhat painful to shoot her Kimber.

Chas.

I just couldn't do it; I tried, but I just couldn't!! I now have a hi-cap handgun on my hip and I still have a 1911 .45ACP on my hip. I forgot about a gun I haven't shot in at least 15 to 20 years. It's a Paraordnance frame, Caspian slide, Wilson barrel (wouldn't do that again), Bomar sights and Brown parts. I had it built when I was shooting IPSC and Paraordnance was only making frames. It's a bit on the heavy side, but I was surprised that the felt weight isn't much if any heavier than my 5" Government Model. Life is good!

Chas.

I went through the same soul searching and came up with a different solution - more .45 ACP magazines!

Excellent solution. Hmmm, wonder where I can carry that third spare mag.

I'm glad you asked. Your answer can be found here.

[C-dub]

This is a very good read, even though it brings tears to the eyes of a die-hard 1911 .45ACP guy. I've been seriously considering switching to an M&P 9 for daily carry because of the greatly increased firepower. (17+1 with 1 or 2 more mags.) I've never worried about the ammo load until the ISIS issue came up. However, the extra ammo could play a role in "ordinary" shootings since it seems thugs have realized that there are more effective with multiple attackers.

My wife carries a Kimber Ultra Carry in .45ACP and she may switch to an M&P 9 Compact. She'd be doing it more because the reduced felt recoil would be easier on her hands. Arthritis is making it somewhat painful to shoot her Kimber.

Chas.

I just couldn't do it; I tried, but I just couldn't!! I now have a hi-cap handgun on my hip and I still have a 1911 .45ACP on my hip. I forgot about a gun I haven't shot in at least 15 to 20 years. It's a Paraordnance frame, Caspian slide, Wilson barrel (wouldn't do that again), Bomar sights and Brown parts. I had it built when I was shooting IPSC and Paraordnance was only making frames. It's a bit on the heavy side, but I was surprised that the felt weight isn't much if any heavier than my 5" Government Model. Life is good!

Chas.

I went through the same soul searching and came up with a different solution - more .45 ACP magazines!

Excellent solution. Hmmm, wonder where I can carry that third spare mag.

I'm glad you asked. Your answer can be found here.

Hah. Those aren't for double stack .45, but point taken. After looking around a bit there is certainly some interesting stuff out there if someone really wanted to carry a bunch of extra rounds of just about anything. I do have two double pouch paddle holsters, but don't really want to carry four double stack .45 13-round mags on my belt and the gun.

[AdioSS]

Here's my thinking on that. The same advancements that have been done to modern 9mm ammo have also been applied to .40 S&W & .45ACP ammo.

If you really want capacity & low recoil then there's the 5.7x28

[Excaliber]

This is a very good read, even though it brings tears to the eyes of a die-hard 1911 .45ACP guy. I've been seriously considering switching to an M&P 9 for daily carry because of the greatly increased firepower. (17+1 with 1 or 2 more mags.) I've never worried about the ammo load until the ISIS issue came up. However, the extra ammo could play a role in "ordinary" shootings since it seems thugs have realized that there are more effective with multiple attackers.

My wife carries a Kimber Ultra Carry in .45ACP and she may switch to an M&P 9 Compact. She'd be doing it more because the reduced felt recoil would be easier on her hands. Arthritis is making it somewhat painful to shoot her Kimber.

Chas.

I just couldn't do it; I tried, but I just couldn't!! I now have a hi-cap handgun on my hip and I still have a 1911 .45ACP on my hip. I forgot about a gun I haven't shot in at least 15 to 20 years. It's a Paraordnance frame, Caspian slide, Wilson barrel (wouldn't do that again), Bomar sights and Brown parts. I had it built when I was shooting IPSC and Paraordnance was only making frames. It's a bit on the heavy side, but I was surprised that the felt weight isn't much if any heavier than my 5" Government Model. Life is good!

Chas.

I went through the same soul searching and came up with a different solution - more .45 ACP magazines!

Excellent solution. Hmmm, wonder where I can carry that third spare mag.

I'm glad you asked. Your answer can be found here.

Hah. Those aren't for double stack .45, but point taken. After looking around a bit there is certainly some interesting stuff out there if someone really wanted to carry a bunch of extra rounds of just about anything. I do have two double pouch paddle holsters, but don't really want to carry four double stack .45 13-round mags on my belt and the gun.

With 13 round spares, two oughta' do ya!

With one in the chamber, that's only one round less than my 4 spare mag total (40 vs 41).

[MechAg94]

Here's my thinking on that. The same advancements that have been done to modern 9mm ammo have also been applied to .40 S&W & .45ACP ammo.

If you really want capacity & low recoil then there's the 5.7x28

Yeah, but I have nearly as much capacity with my XDm 9mm.

[MechAg94]

I recall an interview I heard with a guy about his book. He researched police and self defense shootings with different calibers at the results. I think the main thing he concluded was there little statistical difference in effectiveness between 9mm, 40, and 45. The drop off happened when calibers dropped below 9mm.

That said, my G21 with 13 round mags have plenty of capacity IMO. Where I worry about capacity is with my XDs with only the 6 rounds.