Critical legislation for 2015

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What are your top four issues for the 2015 Texas Legislative Session?

1. Open-carry
171
13%
2. Repeal of all off-limits areas for Texas CHLs (excluding federal laws) [HB3218 in 2013];
354
26%
3. Exclude church volunteer security teams and team members from the Occupations Code §1702 [HB2535 in 2013];
102
8%
4. Put teeth in the Employer parking lot bill by creating a cause of action for aggrieved employees;
131
10%
5. Create a substantial civil penalty for governmental agencies and political subdivisions that post unenforceable 30.06 signs [HB508 in 2013];
216
16%
6. Remove the fingerprint requirement for new and renewed CHLs;
27
2%
7. Redefine "conviction" for CHL eligibility to exclude successfully completed deferred adjudications;
57
4%
8. Amend CHL eligibility requirements such that the only disqualifying misdemeanors are violent offenses;
77
6%
9. Repeal TPC §42.01(a)(8) make it unlawful to display a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to cause alarm.
150
11%
10. Other
51
4%
 
Total votes: 1336


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Just seen that CJ Grisham was able to get sponsorship for a "Carry To The Capital" event in January. CJ is reporting his was able to get this sponsorship from State Sen. Estes. I have called to express my concerns with Sen. Estes about these groups previous tactics and they overall belief there is a negative impact on gun rights.

Sen. Estes re-assured me he is only allowing an event(with requires sponsorship to be carried out) and not sponsoring any legislation from these groups at this time. He also stated that he is well aware of the tactics demonstrated by these group and is cautious.
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Re: Critical legislation for 2015

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
My experience both as a police officer (also a firearms instructor for the department) and a competitive shooter is that most LEO's can't shoot any better than the vast majority of citizens. It seems that the only ones who can are those who are interested in guns aside from them being a tool of the trade. A friend who was a 28 year veteran of the Houston Police Dept. said it best, "when you see a COP drawing his gun, DUUUUCK because there's no telling who's going to be hit!"

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When I was attending ALERRT active shooter training I noticed a few older officers "T cupping" the blue training guns and not holding the firearm correctly. An issue with myself when shooting simulation ammo in a loud, high stress scenario I never saw my sights.

Edit: I highly recommend anyone take the ALERRT citizens course. I doubt it will be force on force training like LEOs go through but I know you would come away with some good info.

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Maybe I'm missing the place where it says it's open to civilians?
All the classes I've clicked say this...
Prerequisites: Certified Police Officer
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RoyGBiv wrote:
Maybe I'm missing the place where it says it's open to civilians?
All the classes I've clicked say this...
Prerequisites: Certified Police Officer
Must be a typo cause the course description say this,
Course Description: Law enforcement officers and agencies are frequently requested by schools, businesses, and community members for direction and presentations on what they should do if confronted with an active shooter event. The Civilian Response to Active Shooter Events (CRASE) course, designed and built on the Avoid, Deny, Defend strategy developed by ALERRT in 2004, provides strategies, guidance and a proven plan for surviving an active shooter event. Topics include the history and prevalence of active shooter events, the role of professional guardians, civilian response options, medical issues, and drills. Participants in this four hour Train-the-Trainer course will receive a manual and Power Point presentation suitable for use in their own presentations.
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I read an interesting idea on another board that I thought I'd bring over here: Require that anyone who posts a 30.06 sign register the sign with the state. Then the state can post a list on the web, like they do with establishments with alcohol licenses. That way people can know ahead of time whether an establishment they want to visit is posted. texas3006.com is nice, but it doesn't get every location.
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CleverNickname wrote:I read an interesting idea on another board that I thought I'd bring over here: Require that anyone who posts a 30.06 sign register the sign with the state. Then the state can post a list on the web, like they do with establishments with alcohol licenses. That way people can know ahead of time whether an establishment they want to visit is posted. texas3006.com is nice, but it doesn't get every location.
Utah does something similar but only for churches that ban guns.
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Re: Critical legislation for 2015

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I already voted, but there are two I did not see that I would like:
1. Reduction of penalty for 30.06 violation
2. I'm assuming this is not there due to it not being very plausible, but Constitutional Carry, i.e. no licenses required.
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I guess you missed this post: http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 97#p922419" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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CleverNickname wrote:I read an interesting idea on another board that I thought I'd bring over here: Require that anyone who posts a 30.06 sign register the sign with the state. Then the state can post a list on the web, like they do with establishments with alcohol licenses. That way people can know ahead of time whether an establishment they want to visit is posted. texas3006.com is nice, but it doesn't get every location.
I like that! :thumbs2:
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That's a great tip! Thank you
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I've used a service called Popvox. It alerts you to new bills that are filed and changes.
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Hey Mr. Cotton, another nit: I just noticed that on the TFC Bill list, HB 92 (White - Illegal Knife) is incorrectly listed as HB 952.

Found it when setting up my TLO bill tracking list. Thanks for the reminder TxLobo. I guess my only suggestion for you would be to see if you can have your smartphone implanted directly in your head. :mrgreen:
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Re: Critical legislation for 2015

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:I was surprised at the number who selected #9 -
"Repeal TPC §42.01(a)(8) make it unlawful to display a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to cause alarm."
Maybe Im missing something here, but why should this law be repealed? :headscratch

BTW Good survey.
It's unnecessary because other charges can be filed such as assault and terroristic threat, if the person truly does something threatening. As currently written, it has been and will continue to be abused by LEOs and prosecutors because it is so vague and nonspecific as to the elements of the crime. "Calculated to cause alarm" by whom? Does it mean the person with the gun, the general public, the person who has an irrational fear of all firearms, or any or all of those people? It should be repealed regardless whether open-carry passes, but it will be a critical piece of legislation if open-carry does pass.

Chas.
Regarding this, it appears that none of the current open carry bills address this concern.
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Re: Critical legislation for 2015

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CJD wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:I was surprised at the number who selected #9 -
"Repeal TPC §42.01(a)(8) make it unlawful to display a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to cause alarm."
Maybe Im missing something here, but why should this law be repealed? :headscratch

BTW Good survey.
It's unnecessary because other charges can be filed such as assault and terroristic threat, if the person truly does something threatening. As currently written, it has been and will continue to be abused by LEOs and prosecutors because it is so vague and nonspecific as to the elements of the crime. "Calculated to cause alarm" by whom? Does it mean the person with the gun, the general public, the person who has an irrational fear of all firearms, or any or all of those people? It should be repealed regardless whether open-carry passes, but it will be a critical piece of legislation if open-carry does pass.

Chas.
Regarding this, it appears that none of the current open carry bills address this concern.
To be quite frank and honest, I doubt you will see it in an OC bill, this will probably go into it's own bill.
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