APynckel wrote:RKirkwood wrote:If the 30.06 sign is improper you can just carry past it. IMO, there could be reasons for it or other issues by carrying past it. This has been discussed before.
1. The owner knowingly post an incorrect sign keeping the anti happy and allowing legally licensed CHL into his business because they know the sign have no bearing.
2. Carry past it and being discovered may get you the ride but no charges. As said before concealed means concealed!
As for the 51% sign it might be that the manger don't know which sign to put out. Example - Specs on Mason road has a BLUE gun sign but the new Specs off of I10 in Katy has the RED 51% sign. On the TABC site it listed as BLUE gun sign.
Well, from the private businesses point of view (assuming he didn't know the sign was posted in fallacy), If you carry past it then you are disrespecting the wishes of the establishments owner, as if he had asked you not to carry even if it's incorrect, and you are now trespassing and should be arrested.
So here is where my mind faces a dichotomy. If the Gunbusters sign isn't a restriction to carry, then how or why is a 30.06, in legally required print or not? I know the law says it is, but why? Concealed carry is concealed so that people don't know you're carrying.
If he wanted to "respect" the anti's, but still allow concealed carry, why post it at all? No one who respects concealed carry can respect the anti's point of view.
Why is the 30.06 sign the law, I assume someone said how are people going to know and came up with it.
I don't really know but its the law, I follow it until the politicians come up with something different. In some ways I like the 30.06 because when I'm in other states its not always clear where I can or can not carry.
In another discussion someone had pointed out that the 30.06 sign was invalid and after speaking with the store owner about found out that it was intentional. The owner knew that people with CHL would knowing it was not valid and still do business there. Since I do not know what a person's intention are I have to go by the law as I know it. I have to be notified by a valid 30.06 sign or verbally told no guns. Non-valid 30.06 allow me to carry on and I know the owner/manager could call the police. Hopefully the police who show up know the law, escort me out the door and send me on my way. If not I take a ride and have to get it dismissed in court.
There really isn't any place that I have to go that I can't find another one like it. If they don't want guns I go to another place that likes gun or has no opinion.
As for penalty for improper signage, I don't think so. I would rather see better education for the officers in the field so when called they can look at the sign say it don't meet the requirement, tell the CHL holder to go on his way and have a nice day.
