TRAVIS COUNTY vs. SAXET GUN SHOW

[CWOOD]

Members of TSRA got and email describing how the Travis County Commissioner's Court is trying to impose "Special" contract provisions on the owner of the Saxet Gun Show for the lease renewal for the use of the TC Exposition Center. The proposed provisions would require a NICS check for all firearms transaction, including private non-dealer sales. The provision would make the gun show responsible for violations of this policy under penalty of breach of contract actions.

They have requested action on the part of Travis County residents to counter this move TODAY. Action on the proposal is expected tomorrow at 9AM.

You can email at the addresses below or you can call, or both.

Sam Biscoe, County Judge Sam.Biscoe@co.travis.tx.us

Ron Davis, Pct. 1 ron.davis@co.travis.tx.us

Bruce Todd, Pct 2 Bruce.Todd@co.travis.tx.us

Gerald Daugherty, Pct,3 Gerald.Daugherty@co.travis.tx.us

Margaret Gomez, Pct. 4 Margaret.Gomez@co.travis.tx.us

This is what I sent, and you are welcome to use or modify as you see fit...

Travis County Commissioner's Court,

I am unable to attend your meeting tomorrow and therefore am writing to express my opposition to requiring "Special" responsibilities of the Saxet Gun Show in any contract for the use of the Travis County Exposition Center.

The sale of firearms between two private individuals is covered by both State and Federal laws which have been in force for decades. I have seen no evidence of any "Special" expertise which the Travis County Commissioner's Court posseses in this area of the law which could possibly justify your intrusion in these transactions simply because some Travis County officials have personal policy preferences which are contrary to any lawful private transaction.

I have attended the Saxet Gun Shows occasionally for several years with my wife and daughters. I have never seen or been offered the chance to participate in any illegal firearms transaction. If the Commissioner's Court has evidence that illegal activity is happening, then I suggest that they relate this information to the Travis County Sheriff's Office so that they can properly investigate, arrest, and prosecute any criminals so involved. I would strongly support such proper use of proper law enforcement against such criminal activity.

Absent such evidence, it must be assumed that these transactions are legal and are, frankly, none of your business.

It is unreasonable for the Travis County Commissioner's Court to carve out "Special" responsibilities for one lessee of the Travis County Exposition Center to act in a law enforcement capacity and be held liable for criminal activity in which they are not involved. Would it be reasonable for your to hold the Rodeo officials, Livestock show officials, car show officials, or ROT Rally officials personally liable for any criminal activity which occurred during their respective events? I suspect not. In fact, I suspect that you would find that interest in using Travis County facilities would diminish significantly if you were try to impose such responsibilities in their contracts.

Again, if the Travis County Commissioner's Court has evidence of criminal activity you should direct appropriate law enforcement officials to deal with it in a timely and effective manner. Otherwise do not use your official capacity to advance your personal preferences to the detriment of law abiding citizens.

Sincerely submitted from a watchful and frequent voter.

cwood
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[Tic Tac]

Is this one of the shows that posts 30.06 signs on government property?

[CWOOD]

It has been a while since I have been to one, actually a year or two so I cannot comment on current status but I do believe that they have in the past. I am just not sure. I am sure others can comment on that.

The point of my post is the get the Commissioner's Court to reject the proposal.

My goal is to prevent a county (my county) in Texas from having such contractual stipulations in leases for public property. This is important to all Texans.

It seems that protesting the presence of a 30.06 sign at a particular show's venue is a separate issue.

One can still reject such actions of a governmental body and separately protest a particular show's posting of 30.06.

I would still urge all to Travis County residents to contact county officials to oppose this measure.

[Texsquatch]

Good luck with that. I am not in Travis County, but I am close enough to frequent the Saxet gun show.

[Cedar Park Dad]

I'm a little slow in my advanced age. What is the issue? Doesn't everyone have checks at gunshows? In ancient times when I bought a pistol at one, I had a background check.

Not trying to start a fight, just not understanding whats the thing I am missing.

[TomV]

From the SAXET facebook page this has been going on for quite some time. There is another group "Texas Gun Sense" which is pushing the contract change.

According to the FB page, most of the vendors are FFL and do NICS checks, but not all. I think it's a losing battle.

[Cedar Park Dad]

From the SAXET facebook page this has been going on for quite some time. There is another group "Texas Gun Sense" which is pushing the contract change.

According to the FB page, most of the vendors are FFL and do NICS checks, but not all. I think it's a losing battle.

So some don't do background checks? I thought they all did. Learn something every day.

[CWOOD]

DEALERS as always have to do NICS without a CHL.

However, this is targeted at non-FFL citizens selling to another private citizen.

[Cedar Park Dad]

DEALERS as always have to do NICS without a CHL.

However, this is targeted at non-FFL citizens selling to another private citizen.

How would the show regulate that? I would imagine these sales are not on premises (the few shows I've been to didn't have the space to do anything but grind past each other). Maybe a sign with "no private sales" I guess.

[CWOOD]

That is the whole point. They are tryig to hold the show liable for the private legal actions of private individuals

[Cedar Park Dad]

That is the whole point. They are tryig to hold the show liable for the private legal actions of private individuals

I would think they could get past that via putting signs up stating no private sales on premises and the gun show should be good.

[cb1000rider]

Travis county and APD have been pushing around gun shows recently. IMHO, it appears that they don't want these types of "transactions" within the City/County without background checks - they site illegals buying guys. They've strong armed owners of private property on the issue and have successfully shut other shows down:

References:
http://www.kvue.com/news/Gun-show-owner ... 15242.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.infowars.com/apd-releases-of ... shut-down/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note, Saxon has posted 30.06 in the past. I don't know about the most recent show in Austin.

[Cedar Park Dad]

Have it in Cedar Park instead. We have something long extinct in Austin - conservatives.

As the immortal bard said: "Keep Austin Weird. Keep Round Rock Normal."

[cb1000rider]

Have it in Cedar Park instead. We have something long extinct in Austin - conservatives.

Cedar Park gun shows get posted 30.06, at least recently... I find it highly annoying, especially since the local PD stands at the door to "enforce the rules".

[anygunanywhere]

Travis county and APD have been pushing around gun shows recently. IMHO, it appears that they don't want these types of "transactions" within the City/County without background checks - they site illegals buying guys. They've strong armed owners of private property on the issue and have successfully shut other shows down:

References:
http://www.kvue.com/news/Gun-show-owner ... 15242.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.infowars.com/apd-releases-of ... shut-down/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note, Saxon has posted 30.06 in the past. I don't know about the most recent show in Austin.

I am certain they patrol the hoods to make certain all of the gun sales and pharmaceutical sales are legal.

Anygunanywhere