It all comes down to matter of perspective. Some will always give the LEO the benefit of the doubt and others won't.puma guy wrote:No reason to be condescending. Others have simply stated their opinions and their feelings related to any LEO entering their vehicle with no PC. There have been very reasonable alternatives offered here that would provide safety for the officer and not require vehicle entry and intrusion into the glove box. I doubt any member would be happy to have their weapon placed in the dirt. As far as way too much assuming your assumption he wasn't searching is no different.texanjoker wrote:mojo84 wrote:If all authorities always had good intentions, we wouldn't need the Constitution. He shouldn't have opened the glove box. Getting a peak inside the car when he was putting the magazine and or gun in the back seat was enough. He used it as an opportunity to see what was inside the glove box. Shouldn't have done it.
In addition to what I posted, IF he was doing this to do a search, which I don't believe, if he found anything it would be inadmissible as it was an illegal search. That is basic search and seizure 101 as he had no business in the glove box. That thing about fruit of the poisonous tree comes into play. There is way too much assuming in here when it comes to leos and how they work. I guess he could have just set the gun and magazine in the dirt and asked the driver to not pick it up until he left.
The condescension has become more of the norm. Especially when someone is defending something that shouldn't have happened in the first place. Just as when is the comment was made about putting the gun on the paint. This is done all the time by cops when they are searching for something. Tossing keys, phones and other items on the car is not uncommon. The gun could easily be laid on the windshield held up with the wipers. It could also be carefully laid on the paint without damaging the paint. These are just excuses on which to base an argument in favor of the leo doing something he shouldn't have. What if he wanted to put the gun or magazine in the trunk and the the other in the glovebox. Would be a fairly effective visual search whether or not it was the intention.
I also would like to point out that it is being assumed the cop was not using the placement of the gun in the car and glove box as an opportunity to search. It would also involve considerable assumptions if one was to surmise how the cop would have reacted if he had seen a bag of pot or meth in the glove box when he opened it.
Condescension is used by those that think they are better or smarter than the one they are addressing when in fact, it usually isn't true. I'm not attacking anyone but pointing out the tone that was used content used.
, got a ticket, got disarmed, gun put back in the car. Sure he could have put it here or there but he didn't. He did what he did. If the OP doesn't like it file a complaint. Seems fairly simple. Instead it turns into something that isn't there like it always does in here. 