alvins wrote:...
Knowing our legal system they will just put him in a physco hopital for the rest of his life and we get to pay for it.
Not going to happen. He did not plead insanity - he wanted to plead guilty but in a capital case, the UCMJ prohibits a guilty plea. He'll go to the US Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, and if he does face the executioner, he'll be transferred to the federal prison in Terra Haute, Indiana, for the execution.
Personally, I hope he gets life (without a chance of parole because he's been convicted of capital murder) so that he doesn't get to become a martyr right away) and when he finally dies of old age, he'll forget about the 72 virgins waiting for him.
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alvins wrote:...
Knowing our legal system they will just put him in a physco hopital for the rest of his life and we get to pay for it.
Not going to happen. He did not plead insanity - he wanted to plead guilty but in a capital case, the UCMJ prohibits a guilty plea. He'll go to the US Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, and if he does face the executioner, he'll be transferred to the federal prison in Terra Haute, Indiana, for the execution.
Personally, I hope he gets life (without a chance of parole because he's been convicted of capital murder) so that he doesn't get to become a martyr right away) and when he finally dies of old age, he'll forget about the 72 virgins waiting for him.
As a veteran, I really wouldn't be bothered in the tiniest little bit if that man gets the death penalty. OTOH, I understand exactly what you are saying. I once read an article written by an Air Force Chief Master Sergeant who escorted a convicted airman to the prison at Fort Leavenworth. By his description, it sounded like no place I ever want to see up close and personal, much less be in for the rest of my days. It would be galling to think this murderous criminal gets to live while so many good folks are gone before their natural end, but at least I know he wouldn't be enjoying his remaining time on this earth.
Keep him alive, adorn his cell with nude posters and feed him ham sandwiches and fried catfish daily.
Those catfish need to be dipped in a chicharones tempura batter.
And fried in lard.
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. - John Adams
The death penalty is what he wants; I'm not sure turning him into a martyr is something we should do.
Does he deserve death? You betcha. In any other case; I'd help them do it.
Does he deserve to be a "hero" to others, who would do the same thing if given the chance? Nope.
To prevent that encouragement, I'd pay to have him sealed in a SuperMax prison forever.
No outside contact allowed; no speaking to or from a guard or other prisoner; Solitary confinement; in the dark; forever.
And don't send him to Gitmo. Too close to other terrorists.
Just my 2 cents.
LabRat
This is not legal advice.
People should be able to perform many functions; for others and for themselves. Specialization is for insects. — Robert Heinlein (Severe paraphrase)
Execution and rights to a funeral is what he wants and what serves his motivation most.
I'd prefer to see him suffer, for years in a prison like Leavenworth. Having escorted a convicted rapist there many years ago.... I have no doubt it has not gotten any better with age..
Left to rot and die there for years in max security and solitary, and then quietly disposed of by cremation with ashes scattered at sea.
Forever gone and no place for the true believers to pilgrimage to.. plus,, there will be many of them who will not believe he died.....and forever wast time and lives searching for the "truth"...
Ya Im ok with that
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LabRat wrote:The death penalty is what he wants; I'm not sure turning him into a martyr is something we should do.
Does he deserve death? You betcha. In any other case; I'd help them do it.
Does he deserve to be a "hero" to others, who would do the same thing if given the chance? Nope.
To prevent that encouragement, I'd pay to have him sealed in a SuperMax prison forever.
No outside contact allowed; no speaking to or from a guard or other prisoner; Solitary confinement; in the dark; forever.
And don't send him to Gitmo. Too close to other terrorists.
Just my 2 cents.
LabRat
E.Marquez wrote:Execution and rights to a funeral is what he wants and what serves his motivation most.
I'd prefer to see him suffer, for years in a prison like Leavenworth. Having escorted a convicted rapist there many years ago.... I have no doubt it has not gotten any better with age..
Left to rot and die there for years in max security and solitary, and then quietly disposed of by cremation with ashes scattered at sea.
Forever gone and no place for the true believers to pilgrimage to.. plus,, there will be many of them who will not believe he died.....and forever wast time and lives searching for the "truth"...
Ya Im ok with that
How about execution, with no funeral, and no public announcement. He just.......disappears, never to be seen or heard of again.....and his body is fed to the hogs. When reporters ask, the official answer should be "what Major Hasan? We know of nobody by that name."
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
If he is executed, he needs to have a piece of duct tape put over his mouth so he can't mumble or blurt out all that alah jibberish that they do right before they know they are going to die.
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
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In retrospect, I can live with either E.Marqueze's or labrat's solutions. But it needs to be a deep, dark, SOLITARY, confinement, with no possibility of his being in even covert communication with other prisoners. The only debate becomes: "what kind of medical care will he receive during his confinement?" I'd be comfortable with none. It might be worth it every couple of weeks to slip some LSD into his water, to kind of help the slide into insanity along.
Yes, I want him punished, but also I don't want to spend $50K or $100K or whatever it costs per year to keep someone like that in a deep dark hole.......not so long as there is still one of his victims alive, struggling to cope with a life made much harder by having been crippled. Let them have that money instead. I don't think he ought to get but the barest minimum of regular care to keep him alive. Minimum number of daily calories. Minimum water. Nothing more. No exercise. And if he gets sick, he dies. Plain and simple.
Also, his identity has to be kept concealed from his guards because, sooner or later, sure as God made little green apples, somebody would talk, even if it is unintentionally letting it slip to a spouse that one of his prisoners is Hasan........and once again that dirtbag gets his name into the press.
If his prisoner status MUST be made public, then let him be kept naked, chained to a big rock or a tree, in the gorilla enclosure at the Fort Worth Zoo.......and dab a little bit of female gorilla pheromones behind each of his ears....
Let's see........how creative can I get?
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
The Annoyed Man wrote:
How about execution, with no funeral, and no public announcement. He just.......disappears, never to be seen or heard of again.....and his body is fed to the hogs. When reporters ask, the official answer should be "what Major Hasan? We know of nobody by that name."
Well I'm ok with that as well.....but I think it less likely as a possible solution then letting him rot in Fort Leavenworth for a few dozen years, then quietly, one day... feed his remains to the sharks.
Trust me, Leavenworth is not Club Fed
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
How about execution, with no funeral, and no public announcement. He just.......disappears, never to be seen or heard of again.....and his body is fed to the hogs. When reporters ask, the official answer should be "what Major Hasan? We know of nobody by that name."
Well I'm ok with that as well.....but I think it less likely as a possible solution then letting him rot in Fort Leavenworth for a few dozen years, then quietly, one day... feed his remains to the sharks.
Trust me, Leavenworth is not Club Fed
Does the USDB continue the policy of "hard labor" per the UCMJ?
