Just more proof that people are stupid.Blindref757 wrote:http://criminaldefenseblog.blogspot.com ... erman.html
Real tweets by real people...Americans!
@A1Black_: RT @_surlySprite: They need to APPEAL THIS VERDICT AND GO TO THE SUPREME COURT Don't Stop until Justice is Served for T…
@34thwarrior: Trayvon parents should appeal this to the next level
@_CharNae: Trayvon Martin parents better appeal this case! I would NOT let nobody off for killing my child! heck TF NO!
@_shVn: Trayvon's parents can appeal this verdict and try to get justice again! Lets pray they do and it turns out right this time! Rip
17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 39
- Posts: 1769
- Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:19 pm
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 104
- Posts: 26852
- Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 pm
- Location: North Richland Hills, Texas
- Contact:
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
I hear yah, but maybe it's time to start kicking them off.AndyC wrote:Stop the planet - I've had enough and I want to get off.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"
#TINVOWOOT
― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"
#TINVOWOOT
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 187
- Posts: 5240
- Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 8:26 pm
- Location: Richardson, TX
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
THIS!!! ^^^^^^^^^^The Annoyed Man wrote:I hear yah, but maybe it's time to start kicking them off.AndyC wrote:Stop the planet - I've had enough and I want to get off.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
NRA Life Member Texas Firearms Coalition member
NRA Life Member Texas Firearms Coalition member
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 8
- Posts: 1554
- Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:58 pm
- Location: La Marque, TX
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
So how willing would the founding fathers be to put so much at risk if they knew that this is where we'd end up?????Blindref757 wrote:http://criminaldefenseblog.blogspot.com ... erman.html
Real tweets by real people...Americans!
@A1Black_: RT @_surlySprite: They need to APPEAL THIS VERDICT AND GO TO THE SUPREME COURT Don't Stop until Justice is Served for T…
@34thwarrior: Trayvon parents should appeal this to the next level
@_CharNae: Trayvon Martin parents better appeal this case! I would NOT let nobody off for killing my child! heck TF NO!
@_shVn: Trayvon's parents can appeal this verdict and try to get justice again! Lets pray they do and it turns out right this time! Rip
Opinions expressed are subject to change without notice.
NRA TSRA TFC CHL: 9/22/12, PSC Member: 10/2012
NRA TSRA TFC CHL: 9/22/12, PSC Member: 10/2012
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 10
- Posts: 823
- Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:30 pm
- Location: Wild West Houston
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Those people are so dense that they measuarably affect the Earth's angular velocity when they lie down.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 134
- Posts: 2214
- Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:14 pm
- Location: Chesterfield, VA
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Oh boy......what a mess.
SAHM to four precious children. Wife to a loving husband.
"The women of this country learned long ago those without swords can still die upon them!" Eowyn in LOTR Two Towers
"The women of this country learned long ago those without swords can still die upon them!" Eowyn in LOTR Two Towers
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
The Annoyed Man wrote:Nancy Grace is crazy: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nancy-grace- ... r-trayvon/
GZ needs to sue her too while he's at it. What you have here are public figures defaming a private citizen.
Zimmerman's Lawsuit Against Al Sharpton, NBC, and the Martin Family Attorneys
http://www.examiner.com/article/zimmerm ... -attorneys" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 35
- Posts: 3166
- Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:39 am
- Location: Bay Area, CA
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
bayouhazard wrote:Those people are so dense that they measuarably affect the Earth's angular velocity when they lie down.
I think that's the best insult I've heard in a long time.
I am not a lawyer, nor have I played one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, nor should anything I say be taken as legal advice. If it is important that any information be accurate, do not use me as the only source.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 15
- Posts: 6745
- Joined: Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:16 am
- Location: Hunt County
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Let me know when you get a tee time!The Annoyed Man wrote:I hear yah, but maybe it's time to start kicking them off.AndyC wrote:Stop the planet - I've had enough and I want to get off.
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. - John Adams
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 35
- Posts: 3166
- Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:39 am
- Location: Bay Area, CA
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
One more reason that we need to become a multi-planet species.The Annoyed Man wrote:I hear yah, but maybe it's time to start kicking them off.AndyC wrote:Stop the planet - I've had enough and I want to get off.
I am not a lawyer, nor have I played one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, nor should anything I say be taken as legal advice. If it is important that any information be accurate, do not use me as the only source.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 50
- Posts: 5776
- Joined: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:01 pm
- Location: Austin area
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Been thinking this myself. While I realize this is not what this means "legally", in a nutshell if the jury acquitted Zimmerman they in effect "convicted" Trayvon of a crime. Unlike most murder cases, the fact that Zimmerman killed Trayvon was not in doubt. So - unlike the OJ trial - this was not an acquittal based on "reasonable doubt" whether the accused was the killer. They knew that going in. If you kill someone, the only legitimate reasons under Florida law are excusable, justified, or accidental. The other two don't apply to the circumstances. Thus only justified fits. And the only way you can be justified killing someone is if they're committing a felony against you that places you in reasonable fear of imminent serious bodily harm or death.
Thus Zimmerman could ONLY be acquitted if Trayvon was committing a felony against him.
Trayvon was a felon.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/07/15/jo ... t-innocent" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/07/15/tra ... -innocent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thus Zimmerman could ONLY be acquitted if Trayvon was committing a felony against him.
Trayvon was a felon.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/07/15/jo ... t-innocent" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/07/15/tra ... -innocent/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sharpton said Trayvon committed no crime. It’s clear from the evidence that the jury thought he did, in fact, commit the crime of assault when he punched George Zimmerman, got him on the ground and began beating him. If Zimmerman hadn’t had a gun, and had gone home with a concussion and a broken nose Trayvon would likely have been charged with assault.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 35
- Posts: 3166
- Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:39 am
- Location: Bay Area, CA
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
I'm not sure I agree... Doesn't FL law state that one only has to reasonably believe force is necessary, regardless of whether or not it actually is? Seems like you'd only have to conclude that the jury believed Trayvon created something like a reasonable appearance of a crime (dunno how to translate that into legalese).A-R wrote:Been thinking this myself. While I realize this is not what this means "legally", in a nutshell if the jury acquitted Zimmerman they in effect "convicted" Trayvon of a crime.
I am not a lawyer, nor have I played one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, nor should anything I say be taken as legal advice. If it is important that any information be accurate, do not use me as the only source.
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
I disagree. If the jury doesn't know who attacked first, that's reasonable doubt right there. They are not required to convict Martin to acquit Zimmerman.A-R wrote:Been thinking this myself. While I realize this is not what this means "legally", in a nutshell if the jury acquitted Zimmerman they in effect "convicted" Trayvon of a crime.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts in topic: 187
- Posts: 5240
- Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 8:26 pm
- Location: Richardson, TX
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
Are you asserting that there's reasonable doubt that Trayvon committed aggravated battery on Zimmerman?bizarrenormality wrote:I disagree. If the jury doesn't know who attacked first, that's reasonable doubt right there. They are not required to convict Martin to acquit Zimmerman.A-R wrote:Been thinking this myself. While I realize this is not what this means "legally", in a nutshell if the jury acquitted Zimmerman they in effect "convicted" Trayvon of a crime.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
NRA Life Member Texas Firearms Coalition member
NRA Life Member Texas Firearms Coalition member
Re: 17y/o Killed By Neighborhood Watch/CHL
I'm asserting I wasn't there and I don't know who attacked first. What are you asserting?