I don't think the DA wanted this case. Period. And it shows in the unconvincing manner he is presenting it. This case was handed to him from "up the chain" and he has to work with the circumstantial, trumped up mess he was given. I seriously doubt even he believed Zimmerman is guilty of murder.anygunanywhere wrote:We will see.RHenriksen wrote:I disagree. Assuming the defense didn't do a completely pathetic job during voir dire, I think z is looking better and better.anygunanywhere wrote:Zimmerman is so screwed.
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The lead investigator testified yesterday about the "outside influences" on the investigation.
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Which is why Zimmerman is so screwed.bulinm wrote:The lead investigator testified yesterday about the "outside influences" on the investigation.
If anyone thinks that juries can't be fixed then all this is just a fantasy.
Again, we will see.
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As much as I want to believe otherwise, I am leaning this way too. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.anygunanywhere wrote:Which is why Zimmerman is so screwed.bulinm wrote:The lead investigator testified yesterday about the "outside influences" on the investigation.
If anyone thinks that juries can't be fixed then all this is just a fantasy.
Again, we will see.
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All those who think that Zimmerman will be acquitted stop and think for a moment. Clear your mind and slowly review the state of things in the good old US of A since barry was elected. Would you have imagined the breadth and depth of the overt corruption and scandal that is rampant? Based just on what we know and suspect, think of what we don't know!anygunanywhere wrote:Which is why Zimmerman is so screwed.bulinm wrote:The lead investigator testified yesterday about the "outside influences" on the investigation.
If anyone thinks that juries can't be fixed then all this is just a fantasy.
Again, we will see.
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Then, once you have a firm grasp on that, tell me how much you really trust any part of the system, be it the national executive, legislative, or judicial, or any part of the system on down to the local level.
Trust. This word means nothing these days. Who here wants to trust any system even when you are totally innocent and legal.
Innocent and legal.
Zimmerman is so screwed. He is essentially a dead man walking.
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If this crew wants to direct an outcome I'm sure they've got enough dirt to make it happen.anygunanywhere wrote:All those who think that Zimmerman will be acquitted stop and think for a moment. Clear your mind and slowly review the state of things in the good old US of A since barry was elected. Would you have imagined the breadth and depth of the overt corruption and scandal that is rampant? Based just on what we know and suspect, think of what we don't know!anygunanywhere wrote:Which is why Zimmerman is so screwed.bulinm wrote:The lead investigator testified yesterday about the "outside influences" on the investigation.
If anyone thinks that juries can't be fixed then all this is just a fantasy.
Again, we will see.
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Then, once you have a firm grasp on that, tell me how much you really trust any part of the system, be it the national executive, legislative, or judicial, or any part of the system on down to the local level.
Trust. This word means nothing these days. Who here wants to trust any system even when you are totally innocent and legal.
Innocent and legal.
Zimmerman is so screwed. He is essentially a dead man walking.
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fickman wrote:I'm sure the officers and the investigator appreciate their professional judgment - after an in depth investigation - being called into question by this entire circus. Every single piece of evidence and testimony so far backs up Zimmerman's defense.
That is court. However normally it is the defense that is challenging your investigation, not the prosecution.
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Why isn't all this current testimony from the friend of GZ hearsay?
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I hope you're right... An evening call from someone "up the chain" might be why the prosecution objected.A-R wrote:I don't think the DA wanted this case. Period. And it shows in the unconvincing manner he is presenting it. This case was handed to him from "up the chain" and he has to work with the circumstantial, trumped up mess he was given. I seriously doubt even he believed Zimmerman is guilty of murder.
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I need a sanity check, because I've been taking this same line of thinking much further.cdc101 wrote:As much as I want to believe otherwise, I am leaning this way too. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.anygunanywhere wrote:Which is why Zimmerman is so screwed.bulinm wrote:The lead investigator testified yesterday about the "outside influences" on the investigation.
If anyone thinks that juries can't be fixed then all this is just a fantasy.
Again, we will see.
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I think the "outside influences" want this to go to trial and want Zimmerman to get an acquittal. Clearly even the special prosecutor didn't want this until someone came in and forced it to go to trial.
Even now as we watch the prosecution completely fail, it's like they either want to loose the case or they were ordered to loose it.
Why would they be told to loose it? I think there's a group in power that wants to let the predicted race riots happen. I think they want an excuse to test out their civil disturbance plans, I think they want to go door to door "rescuing" people, take their firearms, and relocate them to FEMA "safe zones". I think they want to use drones on US citizens. I think DHS wants to use all those bullets they've been purchasing and those armored vehicles they have (allegedly) acquired.
Having a Zimmerman acquittal at this point in time is the perfect catalyst for all of that.
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Is that a serious prediction? I mean, do you actually believe that's what is going on here.ShepherdTX wrote: I think there's a group in power that wants to let the predicted race riots happen. I think they want an excuse to test out their civil disturbance plans, I think they want to go door to door "rescuing" people, take their firearms, and relocate them to FEMA "safe zones". I think they want to use drones on US citizens. I think DHS wants to use all those bullets they've been purchasing and those armored vehicles they have (allegedly) acquired.
If so, how are you preparing to deal with it?
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I hope the voters of Florida make this trial an election issue. I sure would, if I lived there.
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You guys are right. It is a sad commentary on America that there will probably be riots if justice is served, but there is very little risk of direct action if injustice prevails.
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No offense, but I think you need to get off the pills. At least stop taking the blue one.ShepherdTX wrote:As much as I want to believe otherwise, I am leaning this way too. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.
I need a sanity check, because I've been taking this same line of thinking much further.
I think the "outside influences" want this to go to trial and want Zimmerman to get an acquittal. Clearly even the special prosecutor didn't want this until someone came in and forced it to go to trial.
Even now as we watch the prosecution completely fail, it's like they either want to loose the case or they were ordered to loose it.
Why would they be told to loose it? I think there's a group in power that wants to let the predicted race riots happen. I think they want an excuse to test out their civil disturbance plans, I think they want to go door to door "rescuing" people, take their firearms, and relocate them to FEMA "safe zones". I think they want to use drones on US citizens. I think DHS wants to use all those bullets they've been purchasing and those armored vehicles they have (allegedly) acquired.
Having a Zimmerman acquittal at this point in time is the perfect catalyst for all of that.
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No prosecutor wants to loose. They are doing their best to obtain a conviction. NOBODY wants a race riot.baldeagle wrote:No offense, but I think you need to get off the pills. At least stop taking the blue one.ShepherdTX wrote:As much as I want to believe otherwise, I am leaning this way too. Plan for the worst and hope for the best.
I need a sanity check, because I've been taking this same line of thinking much further.
I think the "outside influences" want this to go to trial and want Zimmerman to get an acquittal. Clearly even the special prosecutor didn't want this until someone came in and forced it to go to trial.
Even now as we watch the prosecution completely fail, it's like they either want to loose the case or they were ordered to loose it.
Why would they be told to loose it? I think there's a group in power that wants to let the predicted race riots happen. I think they want an excuse to test out their civil disturbance plans, I think they want to go door to door "rescuing" people, take their firearms, and relocate them to FEMA "safe zones". I think they want to use drones on US citizens. I think DHS wants to use all those bullets they've been purchasing and those armored vehicles they have (allegedly) acquired.
Having a Zimmerman acquittal at this point in time is the perfect catalyst for all of that.
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