Sig P238 failure to eject - HELP!

[armanius]

You said, "I just got home. I looked at my P238 and it has a flat spring that is asymmetrical." What did you mean by "asymmetrical?"

Sorry, I meant symmetrical. They are the same on both ends. From the photos posted by others, the older P238 spring had a front and back.

[G26ster]

You said, "I just got home. I looked at my P238 and it has a flat spring that is asymmetrical." What did you mean by "asymmetrical?"

Sorry, I meant symmetrical. They are the same on both ends. From the photos posted by others, the older P238 spring had a front and back.

OK, just checking.

[armanius]

Here are some photos of my woes ...

[G26ster]

Here are some photos of my woes ...

Bummer. I have the SAS version also. I'd send the photos (printed) along to Sig with the gun, as well as your shooting results.

[RottenApple]

I'm no smith, but that almost looks like an extractor issue. It appears like the next round is pushing the spent casing out through the top instead of the extractor grabbing & spinning it out to the right. Just my 2¢ observation.

[rwg3]

I have the same SAS set up. Had similar issues when I first got mine. As I stated earlier, calling Sig and talking with the helpful people in the support area ended up getting the issue resolved. This discussion, viewtopic.php?f=23&t=51367" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , offered up some ideas on magazines as a culprit but in the end the new spring they sent me resolved the issue. It now shoots as good as it looks.

Hope you have the same outcome.

[jimlongley]

I'm no smith, but that almost looks like an extractor issue. It appears like the next round is pushing the spent casing out through the top instead of the extractor grabbing & spinning it out to the right. Just my 2¢ observation.

[DocV]

Your first and last photo show the problem. The case rim is sitting on top of the extractor claw where the extractor claw should be over the rim. That pistol is really clean so the problem is not your cleaning skill.

Based on the pictures, my guess is pistol could be short stroking. That would be caused by not enough bang in the ammo or by too strong a return spring. Since the pistol's problem happens regardless of the ammo you used, the return spring would be the suspect if the problem is short stroking. However, the problem could also be the extractor tension or geometry. Either way, a call to Sig customer service is in order.

[Pawpaw]

Here are some photos of my woes ...

Could you post some pictures of the frame with the slide removed, please?

[armanius]

Thanks for all the feedback folks. I really appreciate it. This is definitely THE best firearm related forum in the world. Members here are super helpful and friendly. Could it be that most of us are Texans? :)

I took the P238 back to the LGS, and they are sending it back to Sig. However, I cannot but have this bad feeling that I should have just sent the gun back to Sig on my own.

The folks at the LGS did not seem to be very happy with me. When I first called, the sales guy told me to make sure to bring the gun back within 30 days so that they could take care of me, which I did. When at the shop though, the manager tells me that 30 days doesn't mean anything, because other than sending the gun to Sig for warranty repair, the only other thing he can do it is buy the gun from me as an used gun.

The gunsmith comes out to complete a form so that they can send the P238 back to Sig. Gunsmith writes the serial # down, gives me a receipt, and says "so your problem is that the gun won't fire, right?" I'm like, "No, it's a failure to eject, which what we've been talking about for the last 30 minutes." I show him many photos that I took, and the gunsmith at the LGS says "wow, that's a first." I told him that there is plenty of photos on the internet about this same issue with this same gun. Gunsmith tells me that he's never seen that.

Gunsmith then takes the gun away, but tells me to keep the magazines, which I did.

Sigh ...

[DocV]

Gunsmith then takes the gun away, but tells me to keep the magazines, which I did.

Sigh ...

The smith should have sent the magazines too. I would give Sig CS a call and let them know about the problem. Offer to send the mags in directly to them so they can test them.

[armanius]

Gunsmith then takes the gun away, but tells me to keep the magazines, which I did.

Sigh ...

The smith should have sent the magazines too. I would give Sig CS a call and let them know about the problem. Offer to send the mags in directly to them so they can test them.

I just called Sig, and the customer service representative Andy said they don't need the magazine, because I had FTE's in both of the magazines that I have for the P238. I don't quite understand the CSR's logic given that I might just have problems in BOTH of my magazines. Oh well. I emailed a different CSR (Kyle), and told him that I'd ship the magazines over if and when Sig's gunsmith wants it. I also emailed Kyle the photos and gave him the round count history.

I'm sooooo frustrated!!! It's worse than waiting for the CHL to arrive.

This is handgun number six. Never had ANY problems with the others: 2 Glocks, 1 Smith Wesson, 1 Walther and 1 Ruger. This Sig is the most expensive out of the six too.

Frustrated, angry, irritated ...

Thanks for letting me rant ...

[armanius]

P238 on its way to Sig via Fed Ex. Now the wait ....

[SigM4]

P238 on its way to Sig via Fed Ex. Now the wait ....

Just as an aside for you or anyone who may be looking at this thread, if you can ever get ahold of Sig CS rep Victoria, she is head and shoulders above the rest. Sig's CS has had its ups and downs over the years, but she's been one of the constants. 99% of the time she'll go the extra mile for the customer to get an issue resolved, so much so that I've been known to call until she answers. Good luck with your 238.