Students in Texas made to wear burqas

[VMI77]

Logically, I think having girls wear burkas is more likely to drive American kids away from Islam than towards it.

However, I have yet to see any evaluation of the public school system that cites unfamiliarity with burka wearing as a deficiency. The public schools weren't particularly impressive even back in my day, and Islam existed back then too, but I don't recall having any time in my schedule to try on the clothing of foreign cultures and religions. Maybe the public schools should hold off on burka wearing proficiency until they've mastered the proficient teaching of reading, math, science, and the written word. After all, when it comes to getting a decent job or indulging in life-long self-education, no one is going to care that you once wore a burka if you can't read, write, and figure. The school system is cheating children out of their future.

[n5wd]

What makes you think that US History and the Constitution aren't being taught? Every student who graduates from a public high school in the state of Texas has had to have US History and Government as required courses.

US revisionist history is taught, not the way it actually happened.

Anygunanywhere

And just how do you know that? Have you been in a classroom in the last few years, looking at the curriculum?

If you don't like what the state legislature (who passes the laws that set up the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills - the points that we're supposed to teach in public schools) then, get off your high horse, write a textbook that explains how it really was, get it accepted by a textbook publisher and let the masses reap the benefits of your work after you convince the curriculum approvers that your viewpoint is actually the one that's best.

Sheesh! You'd think that teachers just get to make up what they teach - they don't! It's all laid out for us by the state. The legislators that YOU and yours elect.

[anygunanywhere]

And just how do you know that? Have you been in a classroom in the last few years, looking at the curriculum?

If you don't like what the state legislature (who passes the laws that set up the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills - the points that we're supposed to teach in public schools) then, get off your high horse, write a textbook that explains how it really was, get it accepted by a textbook publisher and let the masses reap the benefits of your work after you convince the curriculum approvers that your viewpoint is actually the one that's best.

Sheesh! You'd think that teachers just get to make up what they teach - they don't! It's all laid out for us by the state. The legislators that YOU and yours elect.

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I know what Texas schools teach. My oldest son is an athletic trainer at a Conroe ISD high school. My D-L, his wife is a teacher at a Conroe ISD elementary school. My other D-I-L is a high school AP teacher at FBISD Bush High.

You get off your high horse, mister.

I am well aware of what is taught because we keep very well informed as how our grandchildren are doing in school.

If I was to do it all over again I would home school.

If you really think that there is not any revisionist history being taught you need to do the investigative work, not me.

Anygunanywhere

[VMI77]

And just how do you know that? Have you been in a classroom in the last few years, looking at the curriculum?

If you don't like what the state legislature (who passes the laws that set up the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills - the points that we're supposed to teach in public schools) then, get off your high horse, write a textbook that explains how it really was, get it accepted by a textbook publisher and let the masses reap the benefits of your work after you convince the curriculum approvers that your viewpoint is actually the one that's best.

Sheesh! You'd think that teachers just get to make up what they teach - they don't! It's all laid out for us by the state. The legislators that YOU and yours elect.

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=62712&p=769818&hilit=party#p769818

I know what Texas schools teach. My oldest son is an athletic trainer at a Conroe ISD high school. My D-L, his wife is a teacher at a Conroe ISD elementary school. My other D-I-L is a high school AP teacher at FBISD Bush High.

You get off your high horse, mister.

I am well aware of what is taught because we keep very well informed as how our grandchildren are doing in school.

If I was to do it all over again I would home school.

If you really think that there is not any revisionist history being taught you need to do the investigative work, not me.

Anygunanywhere

What is taught primarily is conformity, obedience, and false self-esteem. I highly doubt real history has ever been taught in the public schools ---it wasn't when I attended. We were actually still being told all the old myths like Columbus went voyaging to prove the world was round and that the ancient Greeks lived in a "democracy" like we have in America. I think the garbage history taught in school these days is worse than no history being taught at all. Realistically, we'd be much better off if the masses just believed they were ignorant instead of being deceived into thinking they're "educated." It's not what people don't know that's killing us, it's what they wrongly believe they know that is facilitating our destruction.

[RottenApple]

What is taught primarily is conformity, obedience, and false self-esteem. I highly doubt real history has ever been taught in the public schools ---it wasn't when I attended. We were actually still being told all the old myths like Columbus went voyaging to prove the world was round and that the ancient Greeks lived in a "democracy" like we have in America. I think the garbage history taught in school these days is worse than no history being taught at all. Realistically, we'd be much better off if the masses just believed they were ignorant instead of being deceived into thinking they're "educated." It's not what people don't know that's killing us, it's what they wrongly believe they know that is facilitating our destruction.

This is one reason why we chose to homeschool. It's kinda fun when my kids read something in their lessons that is just patently wrong or is only looking at one point of view and my wife and/or I can sit down and teach how it really was. We recently had a run in with the Civil War being all about slavery. And yet when I showed them quotes from certain people and information from sources other than their lesson books, well.... Let's just say that it's awesome to see a child puzzle things out for themselves and come to the right conclusion on their own.

[pbwalker]

From the business perspective, I don't care if they have experienced any other cultures. I want them to be able to do math, read, write, communicate, shut the heck up when I talk, and be able to work without going glassy eyed and drifting off to never never land.

So I assume you wouldn't want the christianity culture taught too, right?

[VMI77]

What is taught primarily is conformity, obedience, and false self-esteem. I highly doubt real history has ever been taught in the public schools ---it wasn't when I attended. We were actually still being told all the old myths like Columbus went voyaging to prove the world was round and that the ancient Greeks lived in a "democracy" like we have in America. I think the garbage history taught in school these days is worse than no history being taught at all. Realistically, we'd be much better off if the masses just believed they were ignorant instead of being deceived into thinking they're "educated." It's not what people don't know that's killing us, it's what they wrongly believe they know that is facilitating our destruction.

This is one reason why we chose to homeschool. It's kinda fun when my kids read something in their lessons that is just patently wrong or is only looking at one point of view and my wife and/or I can sit down and teach how it really was. We recently had a run in with the Civil War being all about slavery. And yet when I showed them quotes from certain people and information from sources other than their lesson books, well.... Let's just say that it's awesome to see a child puzzle things out for themselves and come to the right conclusion on their own.

Mine were also homeschooled. In college (one UT Austin, one A&M College Station), both were astounded by the ignorance they observed around them.

[RottenApple]

From the business perspective, I don't care if they have experienced any other cultures. I want them to be able to do math, read, write, communicate, shut the heck up when I talk, and be able to work without going glassy eyed and drifting off to never never land.

So I assume you wouldn't want the christianity culture taught too, right?

Why should it be? Heck, why should any culture be taught at the primary or secondary level? We have kids graduating that can barely read, have extreme issues with math, know nothing of real history, and can't think critically. Primary and secondary education should focus on teaching students the basic life skills needed to get by. Let culture and other such non-life skills be taught at the collegiate level.

[pbwalker]

From the business perspective, I don't care if they have experienced any other cultures. I want them to be able to do math, read, write, communicate, shut the heck up when I talk, and be able to work without going glassy eyed and drifting off to never never land.

So I assume you wouldn't want the christianity culture taught too, right?

Why should it be? Heck, why should any culture be taught at the primary or secondary level? We have kids graduating that can barely read, have extreme issues with math, know nothing of real history, and can't think critically. Primary and secondary education should focus on teaching students the basic life skills needed to get by. Let culture and other such non-life skills be taught at the collegiate level.

I agree 100%. I think religion has no place in public education. I was just curious what Any's thoughts were.

[anygunanywhere]

From the business perspective, I don't care if they have experienced any other cultures. I want them to be able to do math, read, write, communicate, shut the heck up when I talk, and be able to work without going glassy eyed and drifting off to never never land.

So I assume you wouldn't want the christianity culture taught too, right?

Eliminating Christianity from schools has been one of the main goals of the communists for a long time. You do know that the communists have infiltrated most of the levels of education don't you? Pretty much the whole Dept of Education, the NEA and TEA is run by commies. There can be no Christianity in schools but this multiculturalism that introduces our children to all of the other garbage including New Age worship, witchcraft and all other crap is going strong. Hand out condoms. Teach so-called same sex marriage. Teach our children that even porn is ok since there is no right or wrong anymore.

It is obvious that everything BUT Christianity is taught to our kids.

So essentially you are wrong. If everything was given equal time I might be fine with burqas. Since Jesus Christ and His message of salvation is forbidden I do mind that this is taught.

Anygunanywhere

[pbwalker]

From the business perspective, I don't care if they have experienced any other cultures. I want them to be able to do math, read, write, communicate, shut the heck up when I talk, and be able to work without going glassy eyed and drifting off to never never land.

So I assume you wouldn't want the christianity culture taught too, right?

Eliminating Christianity from schools has been one of the main goals of the communists for a long time. You do know that the communists have infiltrated most of the levels of education don't you? Pretty much the whole Dept of Education, the NEA and TEA is run by commies. There can be no Christianity in schools but this multiculturalism that introduces our children to all of the other garbage including New Age worship, witchcraft and all other crap is going strong. Hand out condoms. Teach so-called same sex marriage. Teach our children that even porn is ok since there is no right or wrong anymore.

It is obvious that everything BUT Christianity is taught to our kids.

So essentially you are wrong. If everything was given equal time I might be fine with burqas. Since Jesus Christ and His message of salvation is forbidden I do mind that this is taught.

Anygunanywhere

So "New Age worship" (I'm not sure what that is) and Witchcraft is garbage, and you don't want this stuff being taught. I'm fine with that. But the same should apply to ALL religions. Like the things you mentioned, christianity, too, has no place in public education.

As for pornography and same sex marriage, just because you believe it to be wrong doesn't make it so. You are certainly entitled to believe what you wish...heck, I know people who believe in ghosts. Doesn't mean it's right though.

Full disclosure, I really don't subscribe to any of the story books. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but grew tired of the hypocrisy in religion (again, only my opinion). I do appreciate the candor though!