Obama Asks for Gun Violence Victim Stories

[Kythas]

An email from BarackObama.com is asking people to give their gun violence stories if they've been victims of gun crimes, and reasons for supporting gun restrictions.

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[baldeagle]

They're getting desperate now. They didn't anticipate the immensity of the backlash they got. All they have left now is emotional appeals. Even they're own FBI report says the laws won't make any difference.

[anygunanywhere]

I have over 50 guns and some of them are of the evil black variety. I suppose I am fortunate that none of them have had any violence tendencies. I too would like to hear about instances of violent guns. I don't want any of those!!

Anygunanywhere

[Purplehood]

I keep my weapons in a safe as I simply do not trust them out on their own now.

[SC1903A3]

Here's my gun violence story I just submitted.

I am a man in his fifties now but when I was 22 years old I was directly involved in an act of violence that involved a gun. I was living in an apartment when I heard screaming outside my apartment door. As I stepped outside to see the cause of the disturbance I observed three men. The first man had a knife and the second man had a four foot long heavy metal bar. The man with the knife was stabbing the third. The man with the metal bar was using it to beat the man who was being stabbed. I quickly ran back into my apartment grabbed my gun. I went back outside and confronted the two men who were attempting to kill the third man. The man with the knife ran away while the man with the heavy metal bar started advancing towards me while raising the bar as if to strike. I pointed my gun at him and ordered him to drop the metal bar. After dropping the metal bar on the ground I had him place his hands on the wall. Several minutes later the police and an ambulance arrived. The man I had held at gun point was taken to jail and the victim was taken to the hospital. I spent several hours at the police department giving a written statement and then went home. I never heard from the police again.
Approximately six months later I was at a pool party at the same complex when I overheard a man talking about the same incident. I spoke up and said that I had been the person with the gun that had stopped the assault. The original man telling the story turned to me and said “you’re the man that saved my life”. He said that had I not stopped the men from attacking him he would have been killed. He said that the two men that had attacked him had taken a plea bargain and were in prison. In this case my act of gun violence saved a man’s life and resulted in two men going to prison.

[anygunanywhere]

Here's my gun violence story I just submitted.

I am a man in his fifties now but when I was 22 years old I was directly involved in an act of violence that involved a gun. I was living in an apartment when I heard screaming outside my apartment door. As I stepped outside to see the cause of the disturbance I observed three men. The first man had a knife and the second man had a four foot long heavy metal bar. The man with the knife was stabbing the third. The man with the metal bar was using it to beat the man who was being stabbed. I quickly ran back into my apartment grabbed my gun. I went back outside and confronted the two men who were attempting to kill the third man. The man with the knife ran away while the man with the heavy metal bar started advancing towards me while raising the bar as if to strike. I pointed my gun at him and ordered him to drop the metal bar. After dropping the metal bar on the ground I had him place his hands on the wall. Several minutes later the police and an ambulance arrived. The man I had held at gun point was taken to jail and the victim was taken to the hospital. I spent several hours at the police department giving a written statement and then went home. I never heard from the police again.
Approximately six months later I was at a pool party at the same complex when I overheard a man talking about the same incident. I spoke up and said that I had been the person with the gun that had stopped the assault. The original man telling the story turned to me and said “you’re the man that saved my life”. He said that had I not stopped the men from attacking him he would have been killed. He said that the two men that had attacked him had taken a plea bargain and were in prison. In this case my act of gun violence saved a man’s life and resulted in two men going to prison.

I hate to say this but you are in big trouble now.

Anygunanywhere

[SC1903A3]

I've been married for 27 years. I'm used to being in trouble.

[anygunanywhere]

I've been married for 27 years. I'm used to being in trouble.

I'm there with you. 38 years.

Anygunanywhere

[baldeagle]

SC1903A3, the vast majority of defensive gun use stories are like yours. Gun drawn, not shots fired, BGs run away or are arrested. Wouldn't it be a hoot if thousands of guys just like you turned in those stories?

That gives me an idea. How about a website where people can go to tell their stories, just like yours? Since very few of these stories ever make it into the crime statistics, that would be a way to advance the narrative that gun owners usually don't shoot to stop crimes, they simply draw. John Lott would be tickled pink.

[steveincowtown]

I just posted my story as well:

I am have almost hit the 40 year old mark, and without a readily accessible firearm I would have never made it this far. It was the summer of 1994 and I had my windows rolled down on my vehicle, was enjoying the weather and paying less attention to my surroundings than I should have been. As I stopped at a stop light two males ran up from behind and attempted to car jack me. At the time I lived in VA (which allows open carry of a firearms without a license) and was fortunate enough to have a .40 Caliber Handgun with a standard capacity 15 round magazine loaded, chambered, and on my right hip. In one swift motion I drew my weapon and hit the “up” button on my power windows. The attempted car jackers turned around quickly when they realized that they were dealing with an armed citizen.

As a reminder Mr. President “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

[jimlongley]

SC1903A3, the vast majority of defensive gun use stories are like yours. Gun drawn, not shots fired, BGs run away or are arrested. Wouldn't it be a hoot if thousands of guys just like you turned in those stories?

That gives me an idea. How about a website where people can go to tell their stories, just like yours? Since very few of these stories ever make it into the crime statistics, that would be a way to advance the narrative that gun owners usually don't shoot to stop crimes, they simply draw. John Lott would be tickled pink.

I think we all should contribute that kind of story to the obama web site. I too was entangled in a situation where violence was threatened and a gun defused it, I'll have to type it up and donate it to bambam and his minions.

[jimlongley]

Sent to bambam and his minions.

In 1972, living in Albany NY with my wife and teenage daughters (a situation you surely can appreciate) in the middle of the night one night we awoke to much banging on the front door. When my wife and I answered the door there were several teenage boys there, the leader of which tried to force his way in, supported by as many others as would fit in the tiny vestibule.

As they tried to force their way in, the leader and a couple of others started to describe, in the most graphic and obscene terms, the treats they had in store for our younger teenage daughter while shoving on the door and making threatening moves with their hands as if they were going to strike me. The kid immediately behind the leader could be seen to be carrying what appeared to be a knife and another kept his hand inside his jacket as if reaching for a concealed handgun.

My children were terrified, rape and mayhem were the stated goals of our night visitors, and I felt that my life and that of my wife and children was being threatened. I am thankful for the coolheaded response of my (now late) wife because in the midst of all of the ruckus, she thought to stop at the gun cabinet and bring my shotgun, which she had little use for before that day.

As the miscreant finally gained access to our front hall, followed by the one with the knife, she calmly handed me my shotgun, with which I proceeded to defuse the situation and hold the criminals for the police, which were still several minutes from arriving, having been called by my older daughter. While the young hoodlum knelt in our front hall, voiding his bladder in his pants and soiling our carpet beyond repair, my wife finally agreed that maybe it was time she took some lessons in firearms, and she did.

When the police finally did arrive, the leader and his buddy, all but one of his other supporters having fled at the sight of the gun, tried to have me charged with assault with a deadly weapon. The police laughed at him as they hauled him and his friend off to jail. The police left the knife behind and I kept it in the gun cabinet for many years as a souvenir and reminder that guns are a force for good far more often than for bad.

Not a shot fired, and once again, the mere presence of a firearm prevents a crime.

Jim Longley

[karder]

Good stories. Does the Benghazi attack qualify as gun violence? Maybe I should submit something about that. They were using assault rifles so Obama may want to know about it.

[karder]

My submission:

I have been a gun owner my entire life and carry daily under CHL laws in Texas. As a result neither I, nor anyone around me has been a victim of gun violence.
I would like; however, to recount the story of four men who were victims of a terrible gun crime. Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods were murdered on September 11th in Benghazi by men armed with assault rifles. Why is this allowed to happen in our modern world? Why can't Americans be safe in their own Embassy without men armed with AK-47s murdering them?
While I understand that our pesky constitution will not allow our brave President to disarm his own citizens, Libya does not have the 2nd Amendment nor the protections it affords. Please disarm Libya immediately. Do it for the children.

Karder
El Paso, Texas

[Kythas]

Just submitted mine.

On Sept. 19, 2009, I went to Oktoberfest in Addison, TX, with my ex-wife and her best friend. (Yeah, I know, but we've become friends again since the divorce). I had been licensed to carry a concealed weapon for about six months at this point. This recounting of the event is from an account I wrote of it the day after it happened.

I was in the process of recovering from a motorcycle accident a few months earlier that shattered my left knee and broke my leg in five places below the knee. This was my first time out since I was off crutches but had a very pronounced limp and extremely decreased mobility.

As we left the gated area and were walking back to the car, we remembered we hadn't had a funnel cake yet. The girls went back inside to get the funnel cake and I decided to stay outside and sit on a bench just outside the exit. The bench had another bench directly behind it, and the backs of the two benches were touching. On the second bench was a guy, either white or Hispanic, about 25-ish. He was fairly well dressed, but had a type of Mohawk where the hair was in a buzz cut and shaved on the sides, leaving a strip down the center of his head. He had the type of beard that was pencil thin along his jaw line, and a goatee that was also very thin.
I sat down on the bench and took out my iPhone to kill some time while I waited on the girls. The guy then asks me "Where you coming from?"
Me: "Excuse me?"
Him: "Where you coming from?"
Me: "Just leaving here and heading home"
He waited about a minute and said "I need a ride home"
I ignored him. He then reached over and touched me on the arm. "Hey, I need a ride home"
Me: "Sorry, man, can't help you"
He waited a few more seconds, then reached over and touched my arm again. "I need a ride home to Oak Cliff"
Me: "Sorry, going the opposite way"
A few seconds later, he reaches over and touches me again. "I need a ride home"
Me: "Look, I said I can't help you. Leave me alone"

He then got up from the bench. I thought this was the end of things. But when the girls came through the exit, he made a beeline straight for them and said "Take me home". Note that there were maybe two dozen other people also walking out the exit at that time, and he didn't approach any of them. He went straight for the girls I was with. He must have been watching us when we came back to get a funnel cake in order to know who I was with.
The girls ran straight to me and each girl grabbed one of my arms. My ex said to him "Sorry, we're with him". The guy then turned and walked away. I again thought this would be the end of things with him.

As we walked down Addison Circle to the area where the apartments and shops are, we decided to sit on one of the circular benches to eat the funnel cake. As we were sitting, I noticed the same guy sitting on a bench about 15-20 feet from us, glancing our way every now and then. As we were finishing up the funnel cake, he got up from the bench and walked straight towards me. Before he could say anything I said "No. I've already told you no. Leave us alone". He then walked around to the other side of the bench and sat down.

We all got up from the bench, and I decided to walk the girls to their car, as I didn't want them walking alone with this guy around. As we get up from the bench and start walking, the guy gets up and starts following us. I noticed this, turned around and said "Get away from us - now!" He continued walking straight at us, so I said again - louder - "Stop following us and get away. Now!" He continued coming at us with both his hands in his pants pockets. I should mention that he was wearing baggy pants with large front pockets that could easily have concealed a weapon.

After the second time, I reached down, moved my shirt away from my gun, and grabbed the grip of my gun. I then shouted "STOP! TURN AROUND AND WALK AWAY FROM ME! NOW!" He then pulled his hands out of his pockets and put them in the air, but continued walking towards us! I again shouted "DO NOT COME ANY CLOSER! TURN AROUND AND WALK AWAY!" He kept his hands in the air, but continued walking to us. I shouted "GET BACK! TURN AROUND AND GET BACK!" The third time he stopped. At this point he was about 10 feet from me.

By the way, this was in the middle of the area where all the shops are in Addison Circle. It was very well lit. We were on a grassy median underneath three street lights. There was a road on each side of us, with sidewalks, and people who were leaving Oktoberfest were on the sidewalks walking by and watching all this happen. There was not a cop anywhere around - strange since Oktoberfest is crawling with police. I figured if a cop was around he would have come to see what the shouting was about, but nope. Never a cop around when you need one.

Since he stopped, I told the girls to head to the car. I followed them, looking behind me at the same time. He continued to follow us, but at a greater distance. When we got into the parking garage, they were parked on the second level. As we entered, I saw the guy walk by the garage and go down the street. At that point I figured the encounter was over.

We went up to the second level and walked to their car. As we're standing next to the car saying our good-byes, HE COMES UP THE STAIRS INTO THE GARAGE AND STARTS WALKING TOWARD US! I again put my hand on my gun and stared at him, but didn't say anything. He started to angle around us, went to one of the corners about 50 feet away, and stood there watching us. The girls got into their car and left while I kept an eye on him. I then walked back to my car (which was in a different garage) and didn't see him again.

All in all, since I didn't have to draw or shoot and we all made it home ok, I call it a win. However, if I had not had my weapon on me that night I firmly believe I, and the girls I was with, could have been injured or robbed, or worse.