I don't think we have serial numbers yet (though sometimes it seems like we're getting close with all the stuff SS#s are used for now).tbrown wrote:I'm waiting for someone to say she was just running their serial numbers.
DPS performing roadside cavity searches!
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I am not a lawyer, nor have I played one on TV, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, nor should anything I say be taken as legal advice. If it is important that any information be accurate, do not use me as the only source.
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I guess the Director agreed with majority here. According news reports Trooper Kelly Helleson had been fired.
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Do you have a link? I can't find any news on her termination only found info for her suspension back December 10.carlson1 wrote:I guess the Director agreed with majority here. According news reports Trooper Kelly Helleson had been fired.
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I seen it on NBC 5 Dallas. I do not how to put in a link from this IPHONE.
The female Texas trooper who performed a roadside cavity search on two Irving women will be terminated according to the Department of Public Safety.
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Good, I'll check them out Link found. Thanks carlson1.carlson1 wrote:I seen it on NBC 5 Dallas. I do not how to put in a link from this IPHONE.
The female Texas trooper who performed a roadside cavity search on two Irving women will be terminated according to the Department of Public Safety.
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Troope ... 09231.html
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This is good news. Hopefully this never happens again.
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Sorry for the short response. I was on my IPHONE and I still don't know it well.
The DPS Director is Steve McCraw and he is retired FBI. I am sure he is not looking forward to last disciplinary review board and the testimony that will be given.
I am pretty sure that DPS will see new policy coming down. In fact they probably already have.
The DPS Director is Steve McCraw and he is retired FBI. I am sure he is not looking forward to last disciplinary review board and the testimony that will be given.
I am pretty sure that DPS will see new policy coming down. In fact they probably already have.
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Only fired - not prosecuted because 'she was only following orders/policy'?
If her actions were carried out as per orders/policy are higher going to roll?
Or, is this a case where DPS thought they'd find out how far they could push the public...?
If her actions were carried out as per orders/policy are higher going to roll?
Or, is this a case where DPS thought they'd find out how far they could push the public...?
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Helleson should NOT have been the only fired in this situation. Is there a civil rights case being made of this?Abraham wrote:Only fired - not prosecuted because 'she was only following orders/policy'?
If her actions were carried out as per orders/policy are higher going to roll?
Or, is this a case where DPS thought they'd find out how far they could push the public...?
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I agree. Trooper David Farrell should have been fired too.Redneck_Buddha wrote:Helleson should NOT have been the only fired in this situation. Is there a civil rights case being made of this?Abraham wrote:Only fired - not prosecuted because 'she was only following orders/policy'?
If her actions were carried out as per orders/policy are higher going to roll?
Or, is this a case where DPS thought they'd find out how far they could push the public...?
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I agree...He told Helleson "they're acting weird", when any reasonable person could see that the women were acting perfectly normally. I still maintain that "acting weird" was code for "bring out the Gimp".gemini wrote:I agree. Trooper David Farrell should have been fired too.Redneck_Buddha wrote:Helleson should NOT have been the only fired in this situation. Is there a civil rights case being made of this?Abraham wrote:Only fired - not prosecuted because 'she was only following orders/policy'?
If her actions were carried out as per orders/policy are higher going to roll?
Or, is this a case where DPS thought they'd find out how far they could push the public...?
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It appears that both troopers have been brought up on criminal charges.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/03/22/two- ... two-women/
The female trooper was indicted for two counts of sexual assault and two counts of official oppression. The male was indicted for theft of a prescription bottle of hydrocodone from the car.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/03/22/two- ... two-women/
The female trooper was indicted for two counts of sexual assault and two counts of official oppression. The male was indicted for theft of a prescription bottle of hydrocodone from the car.
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As I said a long time ago...let the investigation unfold...looks like it did and they are in a heep of trouble.
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I am sure I'm not the only one that contacted their elected officials (at least I hope not). I can speak for the office of Jim Pits. His staff not only listens they act. Aaron Gregg is the Chief of staff for the Senator and I also heard from his legal analyst. Below is the email I sent and later his response. Regarding this case, law and order seems to be prevailing.Vol Texan wrote:It appears that both troopers have been brought up on criminal charges.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/03/22/two- ... two-women/
The female trooper was indicted for two counts of sexual assault and two counts of official oppression. The male was indicted for theft of a prescription bottle of hydrocodone from the car.
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Thank you for your kind words, sure makes it easier to sit up here trying to wrap things up at 10:20 to know that our work is actually doing some good out there.
Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to follow-up with me. If we can ever be of assistance in the future, you have but to ask.
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Dear Mr. Gregg,
Some time ago I sent an email to the Senators office and you gave me a call to acknowledge receipt of the email and explain that you listen to concerns of Texas citizens.
The topic sir was that 3 Texas DPS officers were on scene on the side of the highway with two women while one of the officers (a women) performed a search by putting her hands down both of the women’s pants and touching private parts. An act I personally felt was so far over the reach of law enforcement officers that it reached absolute violations of unreasonable search described under the fourth amendment.
I saw on the news tonight that the female officer was fired and one of the male officers is still on unpaid leave.
Mr. Gregg I want to thank you for listening to me and I hope your office or Senator Pitt’s himself was involved by contacting the DPS and discussing what a police state looks like.
The bottom line, is a line was drawn. and DPS Officers know crossing it means unemployment.
I must say….I’m impressed with the way your entire office is run.
You folks make me proud of TEXAS!!!!
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Just being fired isn't justice for those they preyed upon.