Anti-Logic?

[tomc]

Somehow, this makes sense to them - (emphasis mine)


Apr. 18, 2007
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

LETTERS: Lax gun laws to blame for Virginia shooting
To the editor:

I am a full-time community college student. The Virginia Tech shooting doesn't scare me -- it just makes me sad. If the gunman hadn't had such ample access to either guns or ammunition, the death toll probably would have been lower or possibly nonexistent.

Every time a school shooting happens, the media, the victims' families and the general public look for reasons and people to blame. We should all start by blaming ourselves.

There's no reason for a person to carry a gun unless he is a government official, a hunter in a rural area or a criminal. There is no reason a person should be able to buy as much ammunition as he wants, especially for weapons such as pistols. These lax laws are keeping this country in danger of its own citizens.

I know that people would still have guns if they were banned. But if they were harder to get, people who are in desperate situations would seek other methods to remedy their situations.

In this country, we are so afraid of not being able to protect ourselves that we make it easier to put guns in the hands of people who will harm us. It makes me sad.

Andrea Eidenier

LAS VEGAS

[MTICop]

Somehow, this makes sense to them - (emphasis mine)


Apr. 18, 2007
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

LETTERS: Lax gun laws to blame for Virginia shooting
To the editor:

I am a full-time community college student. The Virginia Tech shooting doesn't scare me -- it just makes me sad. If the gunman hadn't had such ample access to either guns or ammunition, the death toll probably would have been lower or possibly nonexistent.

So a lower "death toll" would have been "more acceptable"???

Every time a school shooting happens, the media, the victims' families and the general public look for reasons and people to blame. We should all start by blaming ourselves.

I didn't do anything wrong. Why am I to blame???

There's no reason for a person to carry a gun unless he is a government official, a hunter in a rural area or a criminal. There is no reason a person should be able to buy as much ammunition as he wants, especially for weapons such as pistols. These lax laws are keeping this country in danger of its own citizens.

So being a criminal gives you a "reason" to carry a gun???

I know that people would still have guns if they were banned. But if they were harder to get, people who are in desperate situations would seek other methods to remedy their situations.

So would it have been an "acceptable method" if he had used a knife to stab these people???

In this country, we are so afraid of not being able to protect ourselves that we make it easier to put guns in the hands of people who will harm us. It makes me sad.

Andrea Eidenier

LAS VEGAS

All I can say is WOW!!! You would think if you were going to be quoted, you would say something intelligent.

[GlockenHammer]

All I can say is WOW!!! You would think if you were going to be quoted, you would say something intelligent.

Amen, brother.

Instead of this dribble, I prefer to look to VT students that have permits that have begged the legislature and others to allow them the right to protect themselves on campus. Gosh how I wish at the next campus shooting that someone with a license is illegally carrying and kills the shooter before he can conduct his carnage. Maybe then they'd "get it".

[DSARGE]

This reminds me of my friend at work. He is the oddball because he doesn't carry or own any personal firearms. He is well traveled, educated, and is in the profession of arms. He said "there is absolutely no reason why a person should own a handgun, with the exception of Law Enforcement". He said "there is no way a gun will ever enter his house". I asked him what happens when he, his wife, and his kid are at a stop sign, and a mugger pulls a knife, or what he will do when the home intruders come through the door. He said "when it's my time, it's my time". He grew up hunting and carries professionally, so he is familiar with firearms, he just feels the risk of owning one outweighs the need. We pick on him alot (put an NRA sticker on his car), and bring up discussions--all in good fun, but nothing we can say or do will change his mind. We agree to disagree, and respect each other's opinions. I can't for the life of me understand his way of thinking, nor he mine.

[GlockenHammer]

This reminds me of my friend at work. He is the oddball because he doesn't carry or own any personal firearms. He is well traveled, educated, and is in the profession of arms. He said "there is absolutely no reason why a person should own a handgun, with the exception of Law Enforcement". He said "there is no way a gun will ever enter his house". I asked him what happens when he, his wife, and his kid are at a stop sign, and a mugger pulls a knife, or what he will do when the home intruders come through the door. He said "when it's my time, it's my time". He grew up hunting and carries professionally, so he is familiar with firearms, he just feels the risk of owning one outweighs the need. We pick on him alot (put an NRA sticker on his car), and bring up discussions--all in good fun, but nothing we can say or do will change his mind. We agree to disagree, and respect each other's opinions. I can't for the life of me understand his way of thinking, nor he mine.

Get him to sign on to the board. We'll gently work with him...

[stevie_d_64]

"Anti" "logic"

Sorry there's a bit of "oxy" "moronic" in there somewhere...

But then again, I have been accused of not being the sharpest bowling ball in the bag...

[jbenat]

Don't expect logic from a anti/liberal. The only thing "Logic" and "Liberal" have in common is they both start with a "L". Oh, and they have a "I" in there someplace.

[MikeJ]

Personally I'm much more worried about easy access to the voting booth. Just about any idiot can vote, including the one wrote that silly letter to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. If we ever get around to rectifying this situation, we'll probably need to use our guns.

[jrosto]

This missive makes me a bit sad for the young lady who wrote it. She does not have the necessary human survival trait of critical thinking.

Not even the most rabid of anti's would have submitted that letter for publication.

[KD5NRH]

He said "when it's my time, it's my time".

By that logic, he should be glad that all those VT students didn't miss "their time."

[TX Rancher]

Personally I'm much more worried about easy access to the voting booth. Just about any idiot can vote, including the one wrote that silly letter

So what should the criteria to be to allow a person to vote?

[glocklvr]

There's no reason for a person to carry a gun unless he is a government official, a hunter in a rural area or a criminal

Does this make me a criminal according to her logic of lack of because I don't work for the government and I live in the city and rarely get the oppurtunity to hunt but I always have a gun with me. If it is not on me you can bet it is in the truck.

[pbandjelly]

Personally I'm much more worried about easy access to the voting booth. Just about any idiot can vote, including the one wrote that silly letter

So what should the criteria to be to allow a person to vote?

I think he was making a passing joke about stupid people voting.

[MikeJ]

Personally I'm much more worried about easy access to the voting booth. Just about any idiot can vote, including the one wrote that silly letter

So what should the criteria to be to allow a person to vote?

I think he was making a passing joke about stupid people voting.

Yup.

[nitrogen]

As a former Anti, i'll just say this:

The crux of the Anti-gunner feeling about "regular" people owning and carrying guns comes from the honest belief that guns are some type of thing that cannot be used by "normal" people. Many Anti-gun folks (myself included, until I was properly educated) don't realise that even with minimal training, a "regular citizen" can be just as safe and effective, if not more so, than your average LEO.

This is why I'm a huge proponent of getting people to the shooting range; it's the first step in letting someone realise that a gun is just a tool; a tool that does not take a masters degree in criminal justice to use; it just takes practice.

The other part of it is somewhat accurately touched upon by others; a lot of Anti's are afraid of having other people with guns around. I know when I saw someone open-carrying in Arizona for the first time, I freaked out.

It's important to remember that 95% of anti-gunners aren't evil. They are ignorant, deluded or both. They need to be presented with the truth in a respectful, adult manner, patiently.

Patience is the key. Imagine someone trying to explain to you in a snotty and condecending tone. You aren't going to listen. The Anti-gunners, like the Brady campaign KNOW this. They appeal to people's emotions, telling them things in such a way that appeals to their gut. "Guns are made to kill people! That's BAD!"