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Gun Owner Saves Boy from Pit Bull Attack! Wait … Police Say His Actions Could be ‘Criminal’ ?
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glock27 wrote:
people are ill informed
Yes. if they weren't ... a lot of politicians would be unemployed.
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glock27 wrote:that dumb. it seems that every dog attack no matter what breed of dog it is its always a "pit bull" in the media. same with every shooting its always an "assault weapon" or a "glock". and i would guess that only a small percentage are pits as well as the assault weapons are actually assault weapons being used

people are ill informed
I didn't read where the gun used was a Glock or AR. I must have missed that part. I have nothing against Pits,
and I also realize you can make just about any dog "mean", but I see many inner city Pits raised as a status
symbol of sorts. Intentionally chained up (short) etc. I can definitely see 3 loose, and attacking a kid on a bike.
I can also see a pack of Dobies, or German Shepards doing the same thing. 3 or 4 full sized poodles could take a
chunk out of your hide too. Anyway, if the shooter says it was Pits, the cop says it was Pits and the boy on the bike
claims it was Pits..... well.... as much as I hate the liberal media.... I might kind of believe it was Pits. If they all
mistook a Poodle for a Pit , then they really were ill informed.

The people that are ill informed are the folks that have never been around a well behaved, docile Pit, or Doberman,
or German Shepard, Rotti, etc. Just like they've never been around or handled a black rifle, or Glock. The AR is evil
cause it's black/camo and "scary", the Glock reminds some of kitchen ware and their school cafeteria cooking.
(sorry, that was a poke at Tupperware and totally uncalled for; I'm a 1911 guy. couldn't help myself :biggrinjester: )
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http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
for the one that really think they can spot a pitbull have a look at that link

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cheezit wrote:http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
for the one that really think they can spot a pitbull have a look at that link
Unlike the AR problem, the breed of the dog doesn't really matter.

On Wednesday, I was riding my bike for exercise for the first time in a couple of months and was set up by 3 large dogs. One, probably some sort of yellow lab mix, showed me its teeth and came very close to getting pepper sprayed. The wind was not in my favor. I had stopped my bike, gotten off and put the bike between me and the dogs while standing very still. I've learned that movement seems to make them more likely to charge and attack. It took me almost 10 minutes to slowly extract myself from the situation, ruining my cardio exercise.

I had a similar incident the last week that I rode. There, it was two dogs, one younger in appearance but both some sort of chocolate lab mix. Labs are friendly, right? They went into a pack attack mode and were the reason that I bought the pepper spray.

I'm reminded of this by the scar on my calf where the doberman bit me. It is still there several years later. Fortunately, she got more of a mouthful of my sweat pant than of my flesh as she tried to twist her head and tear at my leg. Her owner, holding her on a retractable leash was telling me "don't worry, she doesn't bite."

While the kennel clubs pride themselves in the pure blood lines of their respective breeds, the reality of dogs on the streets is that they are so cross bred that it is hard to tell one from another. Mutts come in all forms with different blood lines. What matters is how aggressive they are towards people. I suspect that the dogs in the OP are not pure bred anything.

I'm a dog lover and a dog owner. But I have no use for dog owners who allow their potentially aggressive animals to come in contact with the public. To me, it is like leaving a loaded and chambered AR-15 lying on the sidewalk. It isn't a question of whether it will be a problem but when. Owners who have several such animals that they allow to roam the streets together and unattended should be held criminally responsible for whatever those dogs do. Breed is an unimportant characteristic.
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More thorough story from Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc- ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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gemini wrote:
glock27 wrote:that dumb. it seems that every dog attack no matter what breed of dog it is its always a "pit bull" in the media. same with every shooting its always an "assault weapon" or a "glock". and i would guess that only a small percentage are pits as well as the assault weapons are actually assault weapons being used

people are ill informed
I didn't read where the gun used was a Glock or AR. I must have missed that part. I have nothing against Pits,
and I also realize you can make just about any dog "mean", but I see many inner city Pits raised as a status
symbol of sorts. <SNIP>
You make a Chihuahua mean and your out a pair of socks, you make a Pit Bull mean and your out a face.
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My recent photo shoot definitely brings out the kinder side of the pit bull:

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I've been a K-9 professional for years. In both the military and civilian world.
Rottie's are my favorite breed. Rico was my best one. I've owned Sheppard’s, and now a Great Dane.

Many of my friends and associates have asked me if they should get such dogs as they loved Rico and Shaddow and thought they would be great for home protection. And they are.
I tell them all the same thing. It depends on two things.

1. Your personality and ability to handle, control, and break an aggressive breeds fight drive. It's a natural drive one must control.
2. Are you willing to put in the hours of training and socialization required to be able to allow these types of dogs around other people. If not they'll just live a terrible life chained in your backyard.

I cannot tell you the number of times people have said to me, .....He's NEVER done that before! Can you help me train him not to do it again? Almost ALL Pit Bull owners will tell you how sweet their dog is. Yet more people are killed by Pit Bulls and Rottweiler’s than other breeds.

Rico, my best friend and most awesome Rottweiler was a bog love. Soooo friendly...and very gentle. It took constant training to get there. But I watched him like a Hawk! I know dog behavior and can spot a single hair starting to raise. I know the lowering of the head, the stare, the entire range of warnings a K9 gives. Most do not. A dog is an animal. Animals do things that animals do. If you do not have the time to put into training and socialization, buy one of my ankle bitters instead. I won't post my website as that may be against forum rules. but I sell small breed pups. Their great alarms and YOU can be the big dog.
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RPB wrote:Gun Owner Saves Boy from Pit Bull Attack! Wait … Police Say His Actions Could be ‘Criminal’ ?
January 23, 2013 2:21PM
http://www.cato.org/blog/gun-owner-save ... e-criminal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
DC neighborhood
I'm coming out of lurk mode (normal for me) because I am curious. This entire thread has had only responses that deal with the type of dog, or how the owner may or may not be responsible, but the most important part is ignored.

Forget all about the dogs. Instead, think about the person who used his gun to save a boy from an attack and now could face criminal charges! Of course this is in DC and we all know the mind set of those in power there but the fact that they are even thinking of charging this man should bother each person here.

I don't care what type of dog was involved, I do care that the United Kingdom mentality is alive and growing in our country where to defend yourself or someone else can be considered a criminal activity.

YMMV and all that... just saying. :tiphat:

Phill

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