The Next American Civil War

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Re: The Next American Civil War

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handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!
I think that's a bit premature.
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Re: The Next American Civil War

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AndyC wrote:I don't know if this has been posted yet, but there's a quote running on various boards regarding the rush on firearms, magazines and ammo:

"This is not a large number of individuals looking to acquire firearms before they are banned, this is a society arming itself for war."


I sure hope not.
Their not the only ones possibly preparing for war.

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Re: The Next American Civil War

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Dave2 wrote:
handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!
I think that's a bit premature.
Perhaps. I think its safe to say the stage has been set for a second civil war. Lets hope this one will be fought with hearts and minds, not bullets.
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Dave2 wrote:
handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!
I think that's a bit premature.

What specifically do you think is premature?
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Obama isn't going to do jack, nor can he. It will be Congress who will have sold us down the road, if it comes to that.

This is why we got rid of the King a long time ago, if memory serves.

The Congress has to stand up. It's their job and they wanted it! We have to keep reminding them that if they won't, we'll get someone who will.
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handog wrote:
AndyC wrote:I don't know if this has been posted yet, but there's a quote running on various boards regarding the rush on firearms, magazines and ammo:

"This is not a large number of individuals looking to acquire firearms before they are banned, this is a society arming itself for war."


I sure hope not.
Their not the only ones possibly preparing for war.

Paul Joseph Watso
Tuesday, September 18, 2012
"Following controversy over its purchase of around 1.2 billion bullets in the last six months alone, the Department of Homeland Security has put out a new solicitation for over 200 million more rounds of ammunition, some of which are designated to be used by snipers."
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JALLEN wrote:Obama isn't going to do jack, nor can he. It will be Congress who will have sold us down the road, if it comes to that.

This is why we got rid of the King a long time ago, if memory serves.

The Congress has to stand up. It's their job and they wanted it! We have to keep reminding them that if they won't, we'll get someone who will.

You don't think he will issue an EO if he doesn't get what he wants from Congress? What's the downside for him or the Democrats for an EO?
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JALLEN wrote:Obama isn't going to do jack, nor can he. It will be Congress who will have sold us down the road, if it comes to that.

This is why we got rid of the King a long time ago, if memory serves.

The Congress has to stand up. It's their job and they wanted it! We have to keep reminding them that if they won't, we'll get someone who will.
A little late for that. These cowards have two years before the next election. There is only one political party in Washington. The elites.

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VMI77 wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!
I think that's a bit premature.

What specifically do you think is premature?
Saying that a second civil war is "on". I'm not saying that this administration couldn't lead us there, but this is all still just speculation about what might be in a bill, the first draft of which hasn't even been filed yet.
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Re: The Next American Civil War

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Dave2 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!
I think that's a bit premature.

What specifically do you think is premature?
Saying that a second civil war is "on". I'm not saying that this administration couldn't lead us there, but this is all still just speculation about what might be in a bill, the first draft of which hasn't even been filed yet.
With all due respect, the Democrats overtly attempting to subvert the Constitution without going through the proper channels of change constitutes the appropriate shot across the bow to warrant saying "it's on".

If they were attempting an honest effort at repealing the Second Amendment through the 2/3 state vote, then I would say a civil war is premature. As it is they are using brute force and authoritarian tactics leading straight into tyranny. That, my friend, is an act of war on the people of the United States.
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Bitter_Clinger wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
Dave2 wrote:
handog wrote:FRIDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2012
"Americans to be disarmed says Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Disarming the right to keep and bear arms
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who is a former Reagan Administration says The United States Of America IS A POLICE STATE and you cannot have citizens with THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS in a POLICE STATE. "

JANUARY 2, 2012
Obama to 'Quickly' Go for Gun Control
-the weekly Standard Jan 2nd


It's on!
I think that's a bit premature.

What specifically do you think is premature?
Saying that a second civil war is "on". I'm not saying that this administration couldn't lead us there, but this is all still just speculation about what might be in a bill, the first draft of which hasn't even been filed yet.
With all due respect, the Democrats overtly attempting to subvert the Constitution without going through the proper channels of change constitutes the appropriate shot across the bow to warrant saying "it's on".

If they were attempting an honest effort at repealing the Second Amendment through the 2/3 state vote, then I would say a civil war is premature. As it is they are using brute force and authoritarian tactics leading straight into tyranny. That, my friend, is an act of war on the people of the United States.
I keep hearing this "repeal the second amendment" stuff.

The Constitution and BOR enumerate rights that pre-existed the document. These rights are God given and cannot be taken away. Even if the second amendment were repealed the right to keep and bear arms will still exist. It will just be more improtant to exercise the RKBA before it gets this far.

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Re: The Next American Civil War

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JALLEN wrote:Obama isn't going to do jack, nor can he. It will be Congress who will have sold us down the road, if it comes to that.

This is why we got rid of the King a long time ago, if memory serves.

The Congress has to stand up. It's their job and they wanted it! We have to keep reminding them that if they won't, we'll get someone who will.
Friend of mine, the Compliance Coordinator for "Ohioans for Concealed Carry" has publicly posted of his conversation with Boehner's Chief of Staff. Basically, Boehner's working on the assumption that they'll need to concede something to arr e at a deal. The idea of telling the Libs to pound salt has never seemed to enter their mind.
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Re: The Next American Civil War

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Jumping Frog wrote:
JALLEN wrote:Obama isn't going to do jack, nor can he. It will be Congress who will have sold us down the road, if it comes to that.

This is why we got rid of the King a long time ago, if memory serves.

The Congress has to stand up. It's their job and they wanted it! We have to keep reminding them that if they won't, we'll get someone who will.
Friend of mine, the Compliance Coordinator for "Ohioans for Concealed Carry" has publicly posted of his conversation with Boehner's Chief of Staff. Basically, Boehner's working on the assumption that they'll need to concede something to arr e at a deal. The idea of telling the Libs to pound salt has never seemed to enter their mind.
Boehner's middle name is "Concede". Aside from the early to late 70's, I don't remember when the Republicant's have ever been weaker or more ineffectual.

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anygunanywhere wrote: I keep hearing this "repeal the second amendment" stuff.

The Constitution and BOR enumerate rights that pre-existed the document. These rights are God given and cannot be taken away. Even if the second amendment were repealed the right to keep and bear arms will still exist. It will just be more improtant to exercise the RKBA before it gets this far.

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I would much rather see them try to appeal the 2nd Amendment. It would never pass. They don't have enough blue States to do it and they know it. Instead, they will do what they always do - end run the Constitution and, just like Chicago, pass something that they know isn't Constitutional. The question will be as to whether SCOTUS would sell us out again or not.
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