Gun confiscation

[handog]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

[baldeagle]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.

[brentski]

Maybe something like this would be the preferred method of assisting citizens be in compliance with the new pending laws. Courtesy of Homeland Security.

[handog]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.

How about the outright confiscation during Katrina. Where were the 10% ?

DHS just purchase 1.4 billion rounds of ammo. Bloodbath?

[Dave2]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.

How about the outright confiscation during Katrina. Where were the 10% ?

Dunno... Are we sure 10% of gun owners didn't lie and say they didn't own any guns?

[handog]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.

How about the outright confiscation during Katrina. Where were the 10% ?

Dunno... Are we sure 10% of gun owners didn't lie and say they didn't own any guns?

They may have. They could have buried their guns in the back yard. Making them all but useless. If so, they gave up their right to keep and bear arms. Bear meaning hold or carry. So much for the blood bath scenario.

[Panzer Possum]

All they need to do is add all semiautomatics to title 2 instead of banning by name or looks. Then the semiautos would need to be on the national registry or it's a Federal felony. Transfers would have to go through a Class 3 FFL with all the paperwork, transfer tax, and FBI approval. Also a CLEO sign off is required for transfers to individuals.

There are many Federal and local LEO who are willing to enforce this law currently, and adding semiautomatics would not change the basic nature of the law. Faced with the threat of losing their paychecks and pensions, I know how I would bet.

There are also many local LEO who enforce the handgun bans in Chicago, New York, etc. There are even more LEO who enforce laws that infringe the right to bear arms, so it's reasonable to think they would enforce an outright ban with the same enthusiasm and rationalization. After all, it would still be legal to own bolt action rifles and pump shotguns.

[Tim_the_Bald]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

Remember, treaty requires 2/3 of the Senate to ratify.

[Rugrash]

I used to have 8 long guns, and 7 handguns. I gave all my long guns to my son and am left with 4 handguns.

What wasn't lost in my boating accident was recently sold off at the GRB gun show in Houston...

[chasfm11]

Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.

Remember, treaty requires 2/3 of the Senate to ratify.

Do you mean like the Kyoto Treaty that the EPA is currently implementing?

[RPB]

I used to have 8 long guns, and 7 handguns. I gave all my long guns to my son and am left with 4 handguns.

What wasn't lost in my boating accident was recently sold off at the GRB gun show in Houston...

I wish my kayak didn't tip over/turtle so easily ...

[philip964]

One of my friends has suggested that gun confiscation might be the one thing that would actually cause Texas to secede from the union.

[Jumping Frog]

I used to have 8 long guns, and 7 handguns. I gave all my long guns to my son and am left with 4 handguns.

What wasn't lost in my boating accident was recently sold off at the GRB gun show in Houston...

I wish my kayak didn't tip over/turtle so easily ...

If it ever came to confiscation, I am not going to play the "boating accident" card. I'll be quite up front in saying, they are mine, you cannot have them. If you want them, come and try to take them.

[bayouhazard]

One of my friends has suggested that gun confiscation might be the one thing that would actually cause Texas to secede from the union.

I think your friend is out of touch with the bosses in Austin. Texas still doesn't have school carry, not even the watered down version limited to universities. Austin won't allow Texans with a carry license to carry handguns openly, when most other states with carry licenses do. Many of those states even allow UNLICENSED citizens to carry openly while in Texas you can lose your carry license and do jail time for not hiding your handgun.

Your friend really thinks those same people in Austin would vote to secede over one more federal gun law?

[Texas Dan Mosby]

This is the same type of feedback I have received from my ex-military and LEO buddies. I hope what they say is true, that for the most part the LE and Military won't enforce gun confiscation.

First, the military and LEO's follow the orders of those appointed over them, and if the law calls for gun confiscation, then they WILL do as they are ordered and attempt to confiscate guns.

Period.

Second, house to house gun confiscation is simply not practical. While I can see selected areas of any given community being targeted and searched, I don't see this course of action being employed for EVERY home in the nation. I can see them trying to establish a "no later time" for turn in, after which, any firearms found would be grounds for criminal charges.

Regardless, execution of any confiscation policy would require an enormous amount of logistical support and assets that can certainly be disrupted by a determined group of citizens without resorting to directly targeting individuals that are tasked with carrying out such policies.