Presidents Makes Speech For Gun Control

[carlson1]

He announced policy process on gun violence. He has asked Biden to lead an effort to lead the administrations cabinet and outside organizations to come up with proposals before January.

He says this team is going to pull together an answer right now. He said he asked Biden because he wrote the 1994 AWB.

He says the majority of American support banning sales of military style weapons, banning the sales of high capacity magazines, laws requiring background checks on ALL firearms sales so criminals cannot take advantages of legal loopholes to buy from individuals.

It is all down hill from here.

[chasfm11]

He announced policy process on gun violence. He has asked Biden to lead an effort to lead the administrations cabinet and outside organizations to come up with proposals before January.

He says this team is going to pull together an answer right now. He said he asked Biden because he wrote the 1994 AWB.

He says the majority of American support banning sales of military style weapons, banning the sales of high capacity magazines, laws requiring background checks on ALL firearms sales so criminals cannot take advantages of legal loopholes to buy from individuals.

It is all down hill from here.

I'm hoping that we have enough in Congress who will not pass such legislation. That will not stop him from implementation by fiat.

[mbw]

"The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms."
--Samuel Adams of Massachusetts -- U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788

[Beiruty]

House is Republican controlled and and NRA has support in both Side of the congress. Any AWB or Hi-Capacity mags should never pass. Otherwise, we are really in deep trouble for our future. No one can trusted to protect your right.

[Poldark]

House is Republican controlled and and NRA has support in both Side of the congress. Any AWB or Hi-Capacity mags should never pass. Otherwise, we are really in deep trouble for our future. No one can trusted to protect your right.

Allegedly he is going to wrap mental health issues up in a bill which also contains Strict Gun control. This will put a lot of pressure on anyone from the our side not to support a combined bill. Obama is also pushing for an early percieved resolution whilst emotion is still running high .

Is/can Gov. Perry going to make a statement supporting TX citizens against a Federal gun grab and show his support for the 2nd amendment that is not infringed as written ?

[RPB]

House is Republican controlled and and NRA has support in both Side of the congress. Any AWB or Hi-Capacity mags should never pass. Otherwise, we are really in deep trouble for our future. No one can trusted to protect your right.

But then again, Obama shouldn't have been elected the first time and ...
Obama shouldn't have been elected the second time

I just had a feeling I needed to buy an AK the end of last October; but I doubt Obama could get a second term, but I probably should, just in case

[chasfm11]

House is Republican controlled and and NRA has support in both Side of the congress. Any AWB or Hi-Capacity mags should never pass. Otherwise, we are really in deep trouble for our future. No one can trusted to protect your right.

Allegedly he is going to wrap mental health issues up in a bill which also contains Strict Gun control. This will put a lot of pressure on anyone from the our side not to support a combined bill. Obama is also pushing for an early percieved resolution whilst emotion is still running high .

Is/can Gov. Perry going to make a statement supporting TX citizens against a Federal gun grab and show his support for the 2nd amendment that is not infringed as written ?

I suspect that he has gone as far as he will. I was at the meeting on Monday where he made the statements regarding CHL and allowing guns in the schools. I also heard his answer to the Channel 5 (Dallas) reporter who questioned him about it on the way out of that meeting. I was both surprised and pleased to hear him soundly affirm the 2nd Amendment and to hear the rousing audience response (mostly not Tea Party members) when he did.

[Jeff B.]

Is/can Gov. Perry going to make a statement supporting TX citizens against a Federal gun grab and show his support for the 2nd amendment that is not infringed as written ?

If he does have the rumored intention of running again, for Governor, he pretty much needs to come out loud and about where he stands on any extreme or un-Constitutional actions taken by the Feral Government.

Jeff B.

[carlson1]

What shocks me is the Government that was behind Fast N Furious that allowed hundreds murdered along with Border Patrol Agents are going to make laws concerning weapons that United States Citizens own legally!

[powerboatr]

couldn't we as Texans pass a law similar to WA or CO and make semi autos over 10 rounds legal here.
pretty much on the fence about ar-15's they were designed to be an offensive weapon against other enemies.
i hunt pigs and we use 308 or 7mm
i have a few at the range that have ar 15s so heavily modified they are imo unsafe
if you squeeze the trigger the recoil sets off another round, because the trigger work is sooooo finessed
its an impossible target or accurate firearm


they has to be a happy medium,

[AEA]

He says the majority of Americans support banning sales of military style weapons, banning the sales of high capacity magazines, laws requiring background checks on ALL firearms sales so criminals cannot take advantages of legal loopholes to buy from individuals.

I heard him say exactly that on Fox. Why does not someone tell him to PROVE THAT.

[ryouiki]

Not just unsafe, but the ATF would see them as unregistered machine-guns. Hello, 10 years in Club Fed...

ATF? They unfortunately don't follow their own rules:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12 ... uty-queen/

[Heartland Patriot]

couldn't we as Texans pass a law similar to WA or CO and make semi autos over 10 rounds legal here.
pretty much on the fence about ar-15's they were designed to be an offensive weapon against other enemies.
i hunt pigs and we use 308 or 7mm
i have a few at the range that have ar 15s so heavily modified they are imo unsafe
if you squeeze the trigger the recoil sets off another round, because the trigger work is sooooo finessed
its an impossible target or accurate firearm


they has to be a happy medium,

I own an AR-15 type rifle and I'm a "retired" veteran as well. So are you saying that you might be okay with the Federal government making me into an overnight FELON, even though the most law breaking I've done in my life is speed a bit on the highway? BTW, my rifle has NOT been "finessed" and it is NOT unsafe to operate. People that do stuff like that, who don't understand safe operation of firearms, are a completely different story...but that kind of behavior on THEIR PART still shouldn't cause ME to be looking at a potential 10 years in Federal prison, if the leftists get their way because not enough folks stand up to them. And I am just ONE guy on this forum who owns an AR-type...you might be okay with all of them being made overnight FELONS too? Because that is how you made it sound with the sitting on the fence comment, at least to me. The "happy medium" is for the Feds to leave me and other law-abiding firearms owners alone unless we use our firearms in unprovoked and unjustifiable aggression against other human beings.

[powerboatr]

couldn't we as Texans pass a law similar to WA or CO and make semi autos over 10 rounds legal here.
pretty much on the fence about ar-15's they were designed to be an offensive weapon against other enemies.
i hunt pigs and we use 308 or 7mm
i have a few at the range that have ar 15s so heavily modified they are imo unsafe
if you squeeze the trigger the recoil sets off another round, because the trigger work is sooooo finessed
its an impossible target or accurate firearm


they has to be a happy medium,

I own an AR-15 type rifle and I'm a "retired" veteran as well. So are you saying that you might be okay with the Federal government making me into an overnight FELON, even though the most law breaking I've done in my life is speed a bit on the highway? BTW, my rifle has NOT been "finessed" and it is NOT unsafe to operate. People that do stuff like that, who don't understand safe operation of firearms, are a completely different story...but that kind of behavior on THEIR PART still shouldn't cause ME to be looking at a potential 10 years in Federal prison, if the leftists get their way because not enough folks stand up to them. And I am just ONE guy on this forum who owns an AR-type...you might be okay with all of them being made overnight FELONS too? Because that is how you made it sound with the sitting on the fence comment, at least to me. The "happy medium" is for the Feds to leave me and other law-abiding firearms owners alone unless we use our firearms in unprovoked and unjustifiable aggression against other human beings.

sorry you missed my point and I may not have expressed my thoughts accurately
i fully support the right to buy or own what ever is LEGAL, I emphasize LEGAL.
I have qualified on many of the military weapons that are designed to render the enemy immobile, even have a few medals for such.
but I have issues using the same "item" for hunting, when there are far superior firearms for such events. I have issue with those that finesse these "items" to the point they are uncontrollable or unsafe, or could directly threaten my safety by their use. We have a very active director that roots those persons out and loose their membership. Those persons are the reason we as legal owners or users of a WIDE variety of firearms are constantly put under the bus. In no way should a law be placed into effect that retroactively makes one a criminal by owning a "what was legal before" firearm. That sir i would fight to the death to defend.
we as good folks have to break the stigma or paradigm others have of created by their cowardice acts.
I was at academy sports a few days back.
we are a society of emulating our heroes.
but...why does the average joe/jane need full tactical gear, complete with pouches for body armour and all the neat velcro sticky pads adorned on the vest and pants? and gloves you can use with your IPAD while wearing them on the hunt???
i am amazed at the range of gear in gray tactical that is pushed on us. it is legal but ODD imo.
I see the need to hide from deer and turkeys (dont look up), but some "rambos" really make the "normals" look bad by association. That is what we need to fix.
unfortunately there are a whole bunch of these persons running around.
closing the gun show loopholes would be a good start and also if a private sell is done, it should be held under the same rules a ffl has to follow.
my ex daughter in law was certifiably nuts, including death threats and the like, she stole a firearm that was my sons, she even put it to his head....
but the court awarded it to her in the divorce/// figure that one out. if a ncic check had been done the firearm would not be hers.