Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
I've done some reading on the requirements for giving/selling a firearm to someone when that person doesn't reside in the same state. I have a shotgun I'd like to give to my parents. I reside in Texas. They reside in Florida. I'm driving to Florida for Christmas. I'm aware that I could ship the gun from Texas to an FFL in Florida and have the FFL in Florida complete the transfer to my parents. I'd like to know if it is legal for me to save the money on shipping and just take the gun with me when I drive out there and take it to an FFL in Florida and have the FFL transfer it to my parents.
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Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
Yes, that is legal. You can hand deliver the shotgun to the Florida FFL who will then transfer it to your parents.
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You can drive it to your parents and then just give it to them. You don't need an FFL to do the transfer. There is nothing illegal about gifting a firearm and no national database exist of firearm ownership, only a database of stolen firearms.
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Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
That is absolutely incorrect and advising someone to commit a federal felony.Longshot38 wrote:You can drive it to your parents and then just give it to them. You don't need an FFL to do the transfer. There is nothing illegal about gifting a firearm and no national database exist of firearm ownership, only a database of stolen firearms.
The only circumstances where an interstate transfer between non-licensees is allowed is when a firearm is bequeathed at death.
Every interstate transfer of a firearm between living people requires a licensee (FFL) to be part of the transaction.
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Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
Thankfully, jrandyw seems to already know the FFL is required to transfer ownership between residents of different states.Jumping Frog wrote:That is absolutely incorrect and advising someone to commit a federal felony.Longshot38 wrote:You can drive it to your parents and then just give it to them. You don't need an FFL to do the transfer. There is nothing illegal about gifting a firearm and no national database exist of firearm ownership, only a database of stolen firearms.
Assuming neither he nor his parents are felons, or otherwise prohibited from possessing the shotgun, it's legal to toss the gun in his trunk, drive to Florida, and the do the transfer at some FFL in FL. It also looks like it's legal to take it with him, and leave his shotgun at his parents' house to use during future visits.
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Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
Thanks for the responses. Now I just need to find an FFL that is as reasonable with their fees as GT Distrubutors is.
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Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
Buds Gun Shop has a webpage for FFL's searchable by zipcode. Gives you a way to start looking.jrandyw wrote:Thanks for the responses. Now I just need to find an FFL that is as reasonable with their fees as GT Distrubutors is.
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Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
Got to have that government paper trail.zaroffhunts wrote:Thankfully, jrandyw seems to already know the FFL is required to transfer ownership between residents of different states.Jumping Frog wrote:That is absolutely incorrect and advising someone to commit a federal felony.Longshot38 wrote:You can drive it to your parents and then just give it to them. You don't need an FFL to do the transfer. There is nothing illegal about gifting a firearm and no national database exist of firearm ownership, only a database of stolen firearms.
Assuming neither he nor his parents are felons, or otherwise prohibited from possessing the shotgun, it's legal to toss the gun in his trunk, drive to Florida, and the do the transfer at some FFL in FL. It also looks like it's legal to take it with him, and leave his shotgun at his parents' house to use during future visits.
Re: Giving a shotgun as a gift while out of state
What about this one?
I have a shotgun that was purchased by my father many years ago then later when I got older, he gave it to me while both being Louisiana residents. Legally, the gun is mine but with no paper work. Now, I have since moved to Texas, the gun is still mine. Is it legal?
Hypethetically, even if he just now had given it to me, while he is a Louisiana resident and me a Texas resident, who else would know (Feds/LE) that he did not give it to me before I moved to Texas? It was purchased before my birth and we lived in the same state for about 36 years. Easily defensible that he gave it to me while being residents of the same state. Technically, still against the law I suppose, but how could that be enforced, unless my own father rats me out?
Now, buying a new gun today, different story, unless FFL transfer.
I have a shotgun that was purchased by my father many years ago then later when I got older, he gave it to me while both being Louisiana residents. Legally, the gun is mine but with no paper work. Now, I have since moved to Texas, the gun is still mine. Is it legal?
Hypethetically, even if he just now had given it to me, while he is a Louisiana resident and me a Texas resident, who else would know (Feds/LE) that he did not give it to me before I moved to Texas? It was purchased before my birth and we lived in the same state for about 36 years. Easily defensible that he gave it to me while being residents of the same state. Technically, still against the law I suppose, but how could that be enforced, unless my own father rats me out?
Now, buying a new gun today, different story, unless FFL transfer.
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