.... petition to the Obama administration to allow ... asking permission to to, “withdraw peacefully from the United States of America and create its own new government.” ...
15 or more States (more now I think)
Yeah, no one will, but it's interesting that displeasure is being voiced ...
Indiana's https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... t/gj27H8Kb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Edited 10-13-2012 ... started out as 15 States, now it's 47 out of 50
Petitions seeking White House approval to ‘secede’ now come from 47 stateshttp://dailycaller.com/2012/11/13/petitions-seeking-white-house-approval-to-secede-now-come-from-47-states/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Edited 10-14-2012
Apparently 50 States have petitions to secede .., but if they all did, from whom would they? White House ‘secede’ petitions reach 675,000 signatures, 50-state participation http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white ... icipation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Saw this on another forum. Call me a die-hard American patriot who still believes in America, but I respectfully disagree with secession.
Many from Texas fought and died for these UNITED States, including Harlon Block shown in the famous flag-raising photo at the Battle of Iwo Jima (photo by Joe Rosenthal of the Associated Press):
Sadly, many from Texas and other states and territories of the UNITED States continue to do so in Afghanistan.
"My god! How little do my countrymen know what precious blessings they are in possession of, and which no other people on earth enjoy.” Thomas Jefferson in a letter to James Monroe, June 17, 1785
I don't put any stock in that kind of thing. Many of you well know how much I loathe and despise the current administration, but some petition on a website ain't going to lead to secession. There would have to be enough citizens in each state to bring it to some sort of a vote in that state, and the majority of the people of that state would have to vote for it. That I might consider seriously, but it ain't going to happen...too many people LOVE the free phones, birth control and other handouts. Why would they want to be cut off? And unfortunately, that includes Texas as well. Which is why I would have liked to see someone who could lead the nation without it crashing and burning, which it will end up doing at the rate we are going. I understand the sentiment the people signing those petitions represent, but I just don't see it coming to much.
Heartland Patriot wrote:I don't put any stock in that kind of thing. Many of you well know how much I loathe and despise the current administration, but some petition on a website ain't going to lead to secession. There would have to be enough citizens in each state to bring it to some sort of a vote in that state, and the majority of the people of that state would have to vote for it. That I might consider seriously, but it ain't going to happen...too many people LOVE the free phones, birth control and other handouts. Why would they want to be cut off?
Also, they'd pretty much be saying that the American Experiment more or less failed, and that's not a statement to be made lightly.
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Heartland Patriot wrote:I don't put any stock in that kind of thing. Many of you well know how much I loathe and despise the current administration, but some petition on a website ain't going to lead to secession. There would have to be enough citizens in each state to bring it to some sort of a vote in that state, and the majority of the people of that state would have to vote for it. That I might consider seriously, but it ain't going to happen...too many people LOVE the free phones, birth control and other handouts. Why would they want to be cut off? And unfortunately, that includes Texas as well. Which is why I would have liked to see someone who could lead the nation without it crashing and burning, which it will end up doing at the rate we are going. I understand the sentiment the people signing those petitions represent, but I just don't see it coming to much.
And BHO would loose his dogs of war and bring the errant sheep back into the fold by force just as was done in the War of Northern Aggression in 1860.
Declaration of Independence wrote:Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
For the record, I believe these times are full of only "transient causes" and will be overcome without secession. The United States of America is not yet doomed, we have not gotten to the "trains of abuses" as outlined in the Declaration of Independence, and there is time to turn the political ineptitude around. Today is Veterans Day (observed), I am not willing to abandon the sacrifices made by our veterans without a fight.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." -- James Madison
Perhaps all those folks who find themselves dissatisfied with the election results should consider how they might adjust their party's political and social agendas to better dovetail with the views of the majority of the nation's population. It was all just fine and good when the nation was composed of angry old white men, but the party hasn't changed while everything else has. And while they are at it, they might want to give all their senatorial candidates a test or review session on female reproductive physiology. If they think they can win in the future and not make changes, they are just as foolish as those who think that seceding is a viable option.
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