OK - Open Carry to Start Nov 1st.

[BigGuy]

I really respected the officer's comment, "Let me check that out," concerning a city ordinance. He didn't bluster and insist that he was right. He didn't let his ego determine how he would respond to the citizen's assertion. Not only does this speak well for him as a police officer, but as a human being.
My hat's off to him.

[azwe]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

[RHenriksen]

That's really surprising - and disappointing!

[RSJ]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

[azwe]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

Yeah I should probably do that. All of my conversations have been over the phone. Not sure who you have talked to but nobody in law enforcement has told me that it is legal. I only brought it up because I live in OK but my license is in Texas.

[AEA]

Good to know.....would also like confirmation. I am only 10 min away and may take a lunch in OK with OC if it is indeed within THEIR law for TXCHL to OC.

[RSJ]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

Yeah I should probably do that. All of my conversations have been over the phone. Not sure who you have talked to but nobody in law enforcement has told me that it is legal. I only brought it up because I live in OK but my license is in Texas.

Same here. I am enrolled in higher-education and FAQ on TX DPS site says im good-to-go. So I've got a valid license. Only question is if OK will honor open carry from a non- OC state.

[Keith B]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

Yeah I should probably do that. All of my conversations have been over the phone. Not sure who you have talked to but nobody in law enforcement has told me that it is legal. I only brought it up because I live in OK but my license is in Texas.

I don't believe they are interpreting it correctly. Here is the way teh law is written:

RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AUTHORITY

The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state.

Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried fully unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a concealed handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.

Doesn't say the license type must match. It says if you have a concealed OR unconcealed license, then you can carry concealed OR unconcealed. If you have talked to the AG, then he needs to issue an AG Opinion ofifcially.

[powerboatr]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

Yeah I should probably do that. All of my conversations have been over the phone. Not sure who you have talked to but nobody in law enforcement has told me that it is legal. I only brought it up because I live in OK but my license is in Texas.

I don't believe they are interpreting it correctly. Here is the way teh law is written:

RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AUTHORITY

The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state.

Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried fully unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a concealed handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.

Doesn't say the license type must match. It says if you have a concealed OR unconcealed license, then you can carry concealed OR unconcealed. If you have talked to the AG, then he needs to issue an AG Opinion ofifcially.

thanks

[steveincowtown]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

#1> Oral opinions are as good as the paper they are written on.

#2> I will show my AZ license, and at the end of the situation ask the officer if my Texas Permit would have worked (in his opinion).


I won't make a special trip to go to OK, but next time I visit I will be OC'ing for sure.

[Dave2]

See, the downside of headline-style writing combined with having a state's postal abbreviation match the spelling of a commonly used word is that I thought something had happened that'd made it OK to open carry here (in TX), starting on November 1st.

Fortunately that sounded fishy to me... I couldn't think of anything which could both override state law and escape my notice until two days before taking effect.

[JJVP]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

Yeah I should probably do that. All of my conversations have been over the phone. Not sure who you have talked to but nobody in law enforcement has told me that it is legal. I only brought it up because I live in OK but my license is in Texas.

I don't believe they are interpreting it correctly. Here is the way teh law is written:

RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AUTHORITY

The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state.

Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried fully unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a concealed handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.

Doesn't say the license type must match. It says if you have a concealed OR unconcealed license, then you can carry concealed OR unconcealed. If you have talked to the AG, then he needs to issue an AG Opinion ofifcially.

Not sure you are right.

Here is the actual law.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/ ... %20ENR.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In page 33 it says:

A. Except as otherwise prohibited by law, an eligible person shall have authority to carry a concealed or unconcealed handgun in this state when the person has been issued a handgun license from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, provided the person is in compliance with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, and the license has not expired or been subsequently suspended or revoked. A person in possession of a valid handgun license and in compliance with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall be authorized to carry such concealed or unconcealed handgun while bow hunting or fishing

[JJVP]

You guys realize that you aren't allowed to open carry in Oklahoma with a Texas CHL, right? The law only applies to residents of OK who are licensed and other state residents who are licensed to open carry. Texas only licenses conceal carry so open carrying in Oklahoma is against the law. I've spoken to OSBI and the AG and they agree.

I have been told otherwise. Do you happen to have a letter from OSBI or AG? I am thinking of asking for a formal written response.

My alternative would be to get an OK ID card and take the CHL/OC class.

Yeah I should probably do that. All of my conversations have been over the phone. Not sure who you have talked to but nobody in law enforcement has told me that it is legal. I only brought it up because I live in OK but my license is in Texas.

I don't believe they are interpreting it correctly. Here is the way teh law is written:

RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AUTHORITY

The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state.

Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried fully unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a concealed handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.

Doesn't say the license type must match. It says if you have a concealed OR unconcealed license, then you can carry concealed OR unconcealed. If you have talked to the AG, then he needs to issue an AG Opinion ofifcially.

Not sure you are right.

Here is the actual law.

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/griffin/ ... %20ENR.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In page 33 it says:

A. Except as otherwise prohibited by law, an eligible person shall have authority to carry a concealed or unconcealed handgun in this state when the person has been issued a handgun license from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation pursuant to the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, provided the person is in compliance with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, and the license has not expired or been subsequently suspended or revoked. A person in possession of a valid handgun license and in compliance with the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act shall be authorized to carry such concealed or unconcealed handgun while bow hunting or fishing

The statute as it relates to the reciprocity is kind of confusing. Don't know if you can carry concealed or open with either a concealed license or an "open carry" license ( don't know of any state issuing open carry licenses), or you can carry concealed with a concealed license and open with an "open carry license". Why can lawyers write things in simple english?

[steveincowtown]

It does not mention a license from a reciprocal state, or at least I did not find it. I just scanned it, so it might be there somewhere.

Here you go, page 63:

Section 1290.26.
RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AUTHORITY
The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state.
Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried fully unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a concealed handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.

Which I think is the same language mentioned earlier.



IMHO, and INAL but I think they will end up honoring Texas CHL for Open Carry.


"Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid."


If I have a firearm which is authorized for concealed carry in another state, then I am authorized to carry concealed or unconcealed in this state (OK); provided the license from the other state remains valid.

My Texas license is valid.

YMMV

[C-dub]

And IIRC,they didn't issue new licenses to everyone. They basically just struck the word "concealed" from their law and said that everyone that currently has OK's equivalence of a CHL can OC as of November 1, 2012. Right?

I posed the question in the Oklahoma section over on OCDO, but haven't gotten an answer yet.