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Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious
By Matt Cover
June 7, 2012
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/holder- ... n-fast-and
(CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

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In his testimony, Holder said that the emails only referred to Operation Wide Receiver.

Holder told the committee: “That refers to Wide Receiver, not to Fast and Furious. The e-mail that you [Rep. Chaffetz] just read [between Trusty and Weinstein] – now this is important – that email referred to Wide Receiver, it did not refer to Fast and Furious. That has to be noted for the record.”

Chaffetz, after a long pause, said, "No, it doesn't. It says Fast and Furious. 'Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed?' It's specific to Fast and Furious. That is not true, Mr. Attorney General. I'm happy to share it with you."
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Just read that article - I didn't see any additional information about what his response was to being caught in an outright lie, has there been anything released on that yet?. I suppose it'll be something equally ridiculous like he was referring to a different email, and has no recollection of the one in question.

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The Annoyed Man wrote:Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious
What I wouldn't give to be in his future press conferences so I could interrupt him every other word and ask him if his previous word meant what it actually means or if it was just legalese for his lunch order.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious
By Matt Cover
June 7, 2012
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/holder- ... n-fast-and
(CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.

Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”

SNIP

In his testimony, Holder said that the emails only referred to Operation Wide Receiver.

Holder told the committee: “That refers to Wide Receiver, not to Fast and Furious. The e-mail that you [Rep. Chaffetz] just read [between Trusty and Weinstein] – now this is important – that email referred to Wide Receiver, it did not refer to Fast and Furious. That has to be noted for the record.”

Chaffetz, after a long pause, said, "No, it doesn't. It says Fast and Furious. 'Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed?' It's specific to Fast and Furious. That is not true, Mr. Attorney General. I'm happy to share it with you."
Holder is a lying heap of manure, a pimple on the hindparts of progress, a scab on the national integrity. He's got to go.
You are too kind in your description of him.

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The man is laughing at our system of governance. He's laughing in the faces of all our Founding Fathers and all who have gone before us defending the liberties we all enjoy. It is nothing more than PURE ARROGANCE because he knows there is NOTHING that Congress is going to do to him, and even if they did, his boss will simply pardon him. NOTHING makes me more upset than someone who believes themselves to be untouchable. Its why I don't like elitists. :mad5
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I am trying to be kind to the Republicans in the house.

They aren't impeaching Holder or holding him in contempt because either action would fail in the Democrat held senate.

AND

They want the lying and stalling to continue until November 6th. So it will be an issue for Pro-Gun folks to consider in the election.

I am willing to read Fast and Furious news stories from now until Holder (and Obama) leave office.
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tomneal wrote:I am trying to be kind to the Republicans in the house.

They aren't impeaching Holder or holding him in contempt because either action would fail in the Democrat held senate.

AND

They want the lying and stalling to continue until November 6th. So it will be an issue for Pro-Gun folks to consider in the election.

I am willing to read Fast and Furious news stories from now until Holder (and Obama) leave office.
Your mileage may vary.
Tom, I'm good with that, as long as they leave office in January. I agree that an impeachment/contempt won't fly with the current makeup of the senate. And, like you I am content to keep reading these things in the news exactly because as long as Issa Et.Al keep the drum beating until Nov. 6th, the more likely it is that the Obamalooza show will leave town. None of that changes the fact that Holder is a lying blister, a pustule, a shanker, a cancer sore on the scales of liberty, a wart on the face of Ms. America.

Other than that, I have no opinions of the man.
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I agree with Oldgringo
You're being too kind in your opinion of Eric Holder.

Here's to 1/20/2013 when "Anybody but Obama" takes over the Oval Office.
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tomneal wrote:I agree with Oldgringo
You're being too kind in your opinion of Eric Holder.
Forum rules, and all that. I could get a lot more imaginative, not without violating both the 10 year old daughter rule....and my religious vows. :mrgreen:
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More vintage Holder:

Bipartisan outrage over quantity and frequency of (illegal) White House leaks: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77171.html

DOJ: "No need to investigate:" http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/tex ... 46747.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What are they good for then? BTW, note that in the bipartisan group, Sen. Feinstein (D-CA) says they need to pass more laws, and right now, since the Administration is breaking the existing laws. Interesting parallel.
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I will always believe that "Fast and Furious" went all the way up the ladder and slithered back down before it was put into operation.

Government employees and appointees are not known for taking any initiative that could even remotely compromise their positions and/or their entitlements. HAH! I threw the 'e' word back on them, yes I did.

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I can't wait for this to turn into Watergate x10. This has had me bent from the beginning. :banghead: I'd like to see Holder arrested by the military and stuck somewhere without a hearing. Oh and drones flying non stop over his tent.
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Kinda reminds me of, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement".

Lately, it seems Holder only opens his mouth to change feet.
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Media is doing its best to ignore Holder confusing himself for a Jedi
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psijac wrote:Media is doing its best to ignore Holder confusing himself for a Jedi
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