November 6th, 2012

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Who will win the general election

1. Barack Obama
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2. The GOP ticket
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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Slowplay wrote:
gdanaher wrote:Finally, I can sign up my two dogs to vote, sign those cards and get them registered, and then send a request that at the time of the election we will all be out of town and need to vote using an absentee ballot. They will send it out to us all and we can vote by mail. No picture ID involved at all, and anyone in the world can do it.
Yes, we get it - you're against the voter ID law. :roll:
Not entirely. I want a way to prevent aliens and ineligible felons from voting. The system that our legislature created was short sighted, ill conceived, and unworkable. There must be a means by which every potential voter is vetted to the extent needed to assure that they are breathing citizens with voter privileges. No more 'vote early, vote often'. But it can not be done at the expense of a minority of our citizens who are unable to jump through the current DPS hoops.

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Re: November 6th, 2012

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There were several dead people that voted in 2008. Voter frawd does exist. Don't you want a fair election?
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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I hope I'm wrong but I think maobama will get four more years. The best chance the GOP has is nominating a fiscal conservative with a plan to significantly cut spending, and not spend money we don't have to pass and enforce legislation that treats The US Constution like toilet paper by violating the Tenth Amendment

Their front runners are far from that so I take that as a sign the GOP wants maobama to win.
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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pbwalker wrote:Idle curiosity on my part, but I'm wondering...

In your heart of hearts, who do you think is going to win the general election in November? Not what you *want*, but honestly who will win. I'd love to hear some of your opinions.

WIth the GOP is such disarray at the moment, I just don't see the GOP pulling it out. :???: The left OWNS the marketing spin on everything. It seems the right can't gain a hold of that. The left is cutthroat, and the right just seems to take it. Maybe it's me, but I think the right needs to start biting instead of barking. Hit them where it hurts. Lay off the 'holier than thou' legislation and hit Obama where it hurts. The economy!

So, I'm calling it. Obama will win 4 more. It pains me to say it, but it's what my gut tells me. :grumble

What scares me most is that Obama will have nothing to worry about when it comes to implementing all the policies he wants to. He won't have to worry about being reelected. I see Gun Control ending up in the forefront.
I'm not worried about the GOP primary process that they're going through now. It's best to vet the candidates now rather than face a possible surprise when the eventual winner goes up against Obama. My favorite Santorum is doing a pretty good job even though he's being out-spent nearly 10-1. But if he doesn't come out on top, I'm not going to complain too much about it. I will support the GOP nominee whoever it is because I believe even a squishy Republican will at least slow down the economic hemorrhaging taking place in the country right now.

Romney is at 36% right now. That seems low, but even Reagan was at 34% about this time in the election cycle back in 1980. Back then there wasn't much excitement in the GOP, even for Reagan, unemployment was high and the economy was tanking. Reagan won in a landslide. I'm not comparing Romney to Reagan, just that the GOP race and the general mood of the voters then and now are similar.

I think that when the GOP race gets sorted out and the winner goes up against Obama, voters are going to gravitate towards the candidate with the best, (possibly last?) chance to change the direction we're headed in, and to me that means a GOP president in 2013.

As Charles mentioned above, at the very least the Senate and House need to be in GOP control as a hedge against an Obama win. I agree and will go even further to say it is more important than who is in the White House. If Obama starts to rule over us minions with executive orders, a unified Congress can pass laws to put an end to those shenanigans. (Almost St. Patty's Day and I worked in the word "shenanigans"). :biggrinjester:
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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"I'm not comparing Romney to Reagan, just that the GOP race and the general mood of the voters then and now are similar."

It's good that you don't compare Romney to Reagan. I lived in California when Reagan was governor so I got to see a whole lot more of him at a very different angle than y'all who only saw the presidential side. Romney is head and shoulders smarter, more intelligent, than Reagan but lacks the earthiness and fireside manner. Who was it on SNL who said with the phoney accent that "It is better to look good than to feel good." This also applies to the POTUS.
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In my heart, :roll: , as if my heart knows anything.

I voted that the GOP nominee will win, but I really don't have a clue. I think either Santorum or Romney have about equal chances of winning against The Obamanation. I like Gingrich, but don't think he has much of a chance anymore. And as for Paul's chances, "rlol" . I'm sorry, but all I see and hear is Walter from Jeff Dunham.
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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I think Obama will win unless the GOP nominates somebody who is significantly different from Obama in policy matters, not just skin color and religion.
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I've heard this about a million times..." Obama shouldn't win but I think he's going to". How is that even possible? Any 10 year old with a little knowledge of American history and that loves America would make a better President than Obama. A socialist jimmy carter who hates our way of life has a chance to get re-elected? :banghead: I need to buy more ammo, lots more ammo.
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Are people on this forum REALLY going to give this guy 4 more years to do what he wants w/o fear of election? Seriously? We'll find ourselves in nazi germany before too long.
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APynckel wrote:Are people on this forum REALLY going to give this guy 4 more years to do what he wants w/o fear of election? Seriously? We'll find ourselves in nazi germany before too long.
No, I don't believe that if only the people on this forum could vote, there would be a 2nd term for our current President.

Unfortunately, there is a larger part of the citizenry in this country that oblivious to almost everything that is happening. Call them political condition white on steroids. There is another large segment that believes all of the distortions of the truth that are broadcast daily. Class warfare also has a significant following. The large government labor unions have a lot to loose every time a Republican is elected (example: Wisconsin). When you combine all of these various factions, there is a large enough group to suggest the possibility of Obama's re-election.

I strongly believe that if it hadn't been for "swift boat", we would have had President Kerry. It would only take a swift boat like campaign by the extremely politically savvy Obama Super-Pac to erase all possibility of a GOP President in 2013, unless the economy really tanks before year end. Then, almost nothing will keep Obama in office.
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We need only to run advertisements all over the internet about how the bills pass restrict their freedoms.
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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APynckel wrote:Are people on this forum REALLY going to give this guy 4 more years to do what he wants w/o fear of election? Seriously? We'll find ourselves in nazi germany before too long.
The original question wasn't who you are going to vote for...I don't think there is a single person on this forum who would vote for him.
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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pbwalker wrote:
APynckel wrote:Are people on this forum REALLY going to give this guy 4 more years to do what he wants w/o fear of election? Seriously? We'll find ourselves in nazi germany before too long.
The original question wasn't who you are going to vote for...I don't think there is a single person on this forum who would vote for him.
IDK. There might be a few Democrats here. But there are probably more forum members who will vote 3rd party if the Republicans nominate somebody who supported socialized medicine, signed a militia weapon ban, and doesn't present a clear difference from Obama. Others will blame the 3rd party voters for Obama's re-election, when really it will be the Republican's fault for not nominating somebody who (a) energizes the base and (b) shows the middle they're different than Obama in ways that make a difference to the middle. I think someone who can argue for less government, both in our bedrooms and our wallets, would capture a large section of the middle, but I'm sure the Republicans have a plan they like better.
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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gdanaher wrote:
What ever happened to the good old days, when folks voted FOR someone instead of AGAINST someone. snipe
I kind of wonder if there were really any "good old days" when it comes to presidential elections. I've been voting since the 70's and can't think of any election I didn't vote based more on who to vote against as compared to voting for someone. Reagan was the closest. After reading many of the writings of folks such as Samuel Clements and Will Rodgers I wonder kind of suspect it has always been this way, which leads to some hope. We've survived as a country for years, centuries?, with horrid political leadership.

I really hope the Republicans pull it off but I have little faith in them. Back when Clinton was being under fire I remember talk of how there was a conspiracy against him. I always said the Republicans couldn't organize a good picnic, much less a conspiracy. They've done little to change my opinion.
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Re: November 6th, 2012

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wharvey wrote:
gdanaher wrote:
What ever happened to the good old days, when folks voted FOR someone instead of AGAINST someone. snipe
I kind of wonder if there were really any "good old days" when it comes to presidential elections. I've been voting since the 70's and can't think of any election I didn't vote based more on who to vote against as compared to voting for someone. Reagan was the closest. After reading many of the writings of folks such as Samuel Clements and Will Rodgers I wonder kind of suspect it has always been this way, which leads to some hope. We've survived as a country for years, centuries?, with horrid political leadership.

I really hope the Republicans pull it off but I have little faith in them. Back when Clinton was being under fire I remember talk of how there was a conspiracy against him. I always said the Republicans couldn't organize a good picnic, much less a conspiracy. They've done little to change my opinion.
Yup. Probably not since George Washington has there been an election where a lot or most people didn't vote for the least objectionable.
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