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The Mad Moderate wrote:So let me get this straight TAM the Tea Party protesting bailouts and reckless spending is patriotic and these people protesting banks and the benefits the top 1% get are parasites and commies?
Yes. Exactly. You understand me correctly. :mrgreen:

The Tea Party protested government recklessly spending taxpayer money. I'm willing to bet both your income and mine that the vast majority of the Occupy crowd who were of voting age in 2008 voted for Obama and his policies.......including bank bailouts and government motors. The banks (not all, but some of them) took advantage of those bailouts and survived. I argued back then that they should have been allowed to fail. That's capitalism. The commies and the pinkos, they didn't want that. Now they have reaped what they've sown. They are protesting the profits which banks earn, not the reckless spending of taxpayer funds used to bail those banks out. They can go pee up a rope.....and take a bath, PLEASE, when they're finished.

When they work hard enough and smart enough to get into that top 1% themselves, then they too can enjoy the benefits of the amount of work and smarts that it took to get there. You don't like being a less well paid English Lit major? Switch majors to Business & Finance, then get yourself to a good MBA program and sink another 2 or 3 years of your life into that. Then get hired as a management trainee and work your way up the ladder. There's nothing more darwinian than that. Isn't that what liberals love? Darwin?. Getting a BA in Education (which we need, BTW, I'm not disparaging it, and neither am I disparaging how hard teachers work), and then relying on the Unions and blackmailing the taxpayers to get you there isn't going to cut it. It would be an immoral expectation. The choice to be an English Lit or Education major is your choice, not society's choice. Why should society have to pay a penalty for your decision making? When you choose to pursue a somewhat lower paying profession (like being a teacher as opposed to being a doctor or lawyer), or a fairly low paying profession (like being an artist or a musician as opposed to being a carpenter or a janitor), then you are choosing everything that comes with that—including the lowered financial means. There is nothing inherently wrong in making those kinds of choices, but there is something inherently wrong with having expectations for material benefit which are not commensurate with those choices. That is one major difference between a grownup and a child. I have a brother who is a dedicated liberal and a musician. He does not complain about not getting rich doing it. As he told my mother years ago when she expressed worry about his financial future, "mom, it is my art, and I'm willing to accept the consequences of making that choice." Apparently, the "Occupy" crowd is not willing to accept the consequences of their choices—and that makes them either children, commies, or both.

Not one shred of sympathy for their cause from me.

Me? I've chosen self-employment, in a field which is under tremendous pressure in this economy by the way. Things are HARD right now. But you don't see me protesting the rich for being rich. That's just dumb. When you put up barriers to them remaining rich by progressively confiscating more and more of someone's riches, you're putting up barriers against ME getting rich. I work as hard as I do, and put up with as little net income as I do, because I am betting that this will all pay off in the long run and I'll be able to retire comfortably on the results of my efforts. It is tough. It is hard. If you don't have the stomach for it, why should I be penalized when I finally get there?

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the Occupy crowd. None. Zero. Zip. Nada. I hate the president even more than I hate the occupy crowd because he has chosen to make this election into a class war and divide the country until he conquers it. He can go straight to Hades. Like I said in another post, I hope he chokes on a chicken bone. You want examples of why?

'Occupiers' killing stimulus-funded sod in D.C.

Obama: GOP Wants "Dirtier Air, Dirtier Water, Less People With Health Insurance"..........Yes, we are the devil, apparently. I hope he chokes on TWO chicken bones.

White House insists Obama's next bus tour isn't political...........Do you really believe that? Obama's campaign is already in full court press, and he is using the taxpayer money to support "Occupy." Don't believe it? Here's the next headline:

Obama extends support for protesters

Obama blasts, mocks Senate GOP............in a senate with a democrat majority. Why hasn't he said anything about the two democrats who threw the vote against his party? They're the ones who are responsible. If he had enjoyed party solidarity, it wouldn't have mattered what republicans did. Gee.... could there be something wrong with his approach?

China: Occupy Wall Street's issues worth thought (You want to be on the same side of an issue as the COMMUNIST Chinese? Yes....the protesters are commie parasites.)

Dismiss all charges or we will clog up courts, lawyers for Occupy Wall Street protesters say............Blackmail? Gee, maybe if they comported themselves responsibly like the Tea Party protesters did, they would not have been arrested and charged in the first place. Tea Party event attendees didn't break the laws. They made their opinions known, and they got political results, and almost none were ever arrested. It's the difference between responsible adult behavior and "gimme, gimme, gimme," irresponsible childish behavior.

So yeah. They are parasites and commies.......
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The annoying thing is, I read somewhere that if you were to sum up all the occupiers' frustrations into one statement, it would be "we demand separation of corporation and state", which I agree with; they're just being so bloody distasteful while they say it. And I'm not even sure they really are saying that, since they seem to shun any form of leadership that could speak on their behalf.

I know we're supposed to judge the message rather than the messenger, but these people make that really hard.
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Dave2 wrote:The annoying thing is, I read somewhere that if you were to sum up all the occupiers' frustrations into one statement, it would be "we demand separation of corporation and state", which I agree with; they're just being so bloody distasteful while they say it. And I'm not even sure they really are saying that, since they seem to shun any form of leadership that could speak on their behalf.

I know we're supposed to judge the message rather than the messenger, but these people make that really hard.
Some of them may indeed be decrying corporate influence in politics...but a lot of them are supporting Obama, who received (big gasp here) a HUGE amount of money from Wall Street.

What they're really advocating is the use of government (force) to seize money from "the rich" so they won't have to work.

And THAT is the fundamental difference between the Tea party and the Occupy scum.

Tea Party is saying "Leave us alone!!"
Occupiers are saying "Use force to give us what we want!"
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TAM - please tell us how you really feel. :)
I agree with you 100%, looks like a bunch of spoiled brainwashed brats to me & somewhere down the line I'll bet you could find some direct connections to the 2012 re-election campaign...

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74novaman wrote:
Dave2 wrote:The annoying thing is, I read somewhere that if you were to sum up all the occupiers' frustrations into one statement, it would be "we demand separation of corporation and state", which I agree with; they're just being so bloody distasteful while they say it. And I'm not even sure they really are saying that, since they seem to shun any form of leadership that could speak on their behalf.

I know we're supposed to judge the message rather than the messenger, but these people make that really hard.
Some of them may indeed be decrying corporate influence in politics...but a lot of them are supporting Obama, who received (big gasp here) a HUGE amount of money from Wall Street.
That gets back to them not having any leadership structure... anyone can claim to be their leader and represent them, but I'll bet that'll be news to the actual protesters. Most of them seem to be using the protests as an excuse to run amok.
What they're really advocating is the use of government (force) to seize money from "the rich" so they won't have to work.
That certainly seems to be the case with the ones that Fox News interviewed.

I just hope they all run out of weed, get bored, and go home soon so we can start talking about something that involves people who shower.
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74novaman wrote:What they're really advocating is the use of government (force) to seize money from "the rich" so they won't have to work.

And THAT is the fundamental difference between the Tea party and the Occupy scum.

Tea Party is saying "Leave us alone!!"
Occupiers are saying "Use force to give us what we want!"
Exactly right. If they were around 235 years ago, the Occupying Troupe would have been chanting for higher taxes on tea and stamps, and more British troops quartered in the homes of the rich people.

Actually, if they were around 235 years ago, they probably would have starved by now but you get the idea. :lol:

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Well I knew it would happen eventually. They have set up shop in Richmond (VA) as well. Right across the street from my DH work. GREEEAAATTTT...... He can't carry to work (against policy), his car has to be parked 5 blocks away :smash: . Now he has to walk to and from work in business attire (because he is a business man--an analyst) and try to not get mobbed. We are buying him a can of industrial strength pepper spray this week (my little can won't cut the mustard here), and if they stay for long (which they have everywhere else) we will have to look at getting him a tazer (legal where we live).
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A bunch of occupy protesters or whatever you want to call them just walked Past my hotel in Minneapolis. It's 10:30 at night and they were being loud enough to get me out of bed and to my window to see who was yelling. A couple had some V for vendetta mask on and one had a don't tread on me sign. I don't know were they were going but they looked like they were going to find trouble. They were blocking an intersection and had a few cars honking at them while they crossed slowly. Real classy. Definently not the same caliber of people as the tea party.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... rGPCaZaLRK
I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!
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(Mommabearcali (and others?)

Taxi?
Car Pool?
Rental car?
Police escort for a group?,
Company shuttle ?


Vacation?


Good Luck,
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If they don't stay on their side of the street the company will take action and at minimum start getting shuttles out on the opposite side of the building to the protests (The building takes up a city block). When I drove past yesterday they were chanting and shouting things at people, but they stayed on their side of the street. Apparently they chose their spot because it is the closest city park to the FED building. It is often a hang out spot for homeless people (most are harmless), so I bet two days ago the 7 homeless people sleeping in the park woke up and thought "Whats going on here! Who are all these fake homeless people and why do they have tents and air mattresses."

As for things being stolen--well there is a saying "no honor among theives" they are there to force other to give them what is not theirs why be surprised when others do the same to you.
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There's a Howard Stern recording I won't post a link to because of language where he went and surveyed the "morons" but

OWS Protesters who are female prefer males who bought and OCCUPY tents, rather than those with only tarps, proving they are Capitalists.

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One girl who has a house, and goes home to feed the cat stated that she poops anywhere as long as she has baby wipes; she wants to "abolish money" and have everything "rationed" Howard mentioned rationing the free baby wipes? Like in Russia?....

I recall people standing in line in Russia due to toilet paper rationing and not getting any for a month

Another talk show host had an older Russian immigrant call in who spoke with thick accent and was saying he just moved away from that, and OWS morons don't know what they are asking for.
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It finally happened. Somebody explained why they're protesting.

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This woman seems to disagree why they protesting. Her initial comments are appalling by alone. Listen to the news story interview and it just gets worse.

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If anyone at a Tea Party rally, said anything close to this, it would be the lead story all week on the leftest media outlets.
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Is that the one with two degrees who can't find a job? I think I found the problem.
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