Workplace Policy with New Law

[Katygunnut]

I don't think it has so much to do with whether or not you have a weapon in the vehicle, or whether or not you are operating under the MPA. I think it has more to do with them being able to ask for it. Doesn't the law say you have to produce it when asked for it? I may be a little gray in this area, and on my temples, mustache, beard, eyebrows, chest...well, let's just stop there.

RJ

It does and that is where I have a problem with a person that has a CHL claiming they are carrying under the MPA. It has happened to me before where I have left the house and forgotten my wallet, but remembered my gun. I usually only get a block or two away before making the discovery and return to get the wallet with my licenses. I can't see it going very well if I were stopped and were unable to produce a CHL license and try claiming I was carrying under the MPA. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see that going well for me.

Having to produce your CHL and ID when asked for ID has nothing to do with whether you are carrying under the authority of your CHL. As Mr . Rothstein pointed out, even a LEO has to produce both CHL and ID if asked even though they do not even need the CHL to be carrying a concealed handgun.

The relevant section says that you need to produce your CHL regardless of whether you are carrying under it's authority. I don't see how this says anything about whether or not you are always carrying under the authority of your CHL when another authority would also apply (MPA, LEO, etc).

[sjfcontrol]

I don't think it has so much to do with whether or not you have a weapon in the vehicle, or whether or not you are operating under the MPA. I think it has more to do with them being able to ask for it. Doesn't the law say you have to produce it when asked for it? I may be a little gray in this area, and on my temples, mustache, beard, eyebrows, chest...well, let's just stop there.

RJ

It does and that is where I have a problem with a person that has a CHL claiming they are carrying under the MPA. It has happened to me before where I have left the house and forgotten my wallet, but remembered my gun. I usually only get a block or two away before making the discovery and return to get the wallet with my licenses. I can't see it going very well if I were stopped and were unable to produce a CHL license and try claiming I was carrying under the MPA. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see that going well for me.

You seem to be unable to divorce the concept of being required to display your license and carrying under it's authority. Multiple people now have said that they are different things, including Charles (in a post YOU'VE quoted), srothstein, and myself. You said it was possible to convince you, but it'd be hard. I don't know what else can be done beyond what we've already done. I guess you'll just have to act as you see fit, obey 30.06 parking lot signs, etc.

By the way, I seem to remember a post on this forum from somebody who got pulled over and then discovered he'd forgotten his CHL license. He explained the situation to the officer. The reaction was:
PICK ONE:
A) The officer freaked, called a swat team, the swat team performed a felony takedown resulting in the individual winding up spread-eagled on the pavement with multiple automatic "assault" rifles aimed point-blank at his head.

OR

B) The officer shrugged, and continued with the traffic stop unfazed.

Which do you think it was?

[tbrown]

Thanks for the replies y'all. I haven't read the bill since it passed and my memory is no good. I guess it'd be the safe bet though to wait until they change their policy though right?

EDIT* After more research, it appears I can still be prohibited from carrying on leased oil/gas sites such as drilling sites. And being an at-will state, I can still be terminated if, say, I didn't "register" the gun with HR or something like that. Sounds like a ton of risk to my job given that I will be sent to the job site at the drop of a hat or can be terminated for no reason!

All the law gives you is a better chance to win a lawsuit if you're fired for having a gun in your car within the limits of the law. There's no crime that would put the company executives or HR in jail for having the policy prohibiting guns.