Walking into your house while being burglarized!
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Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Happened to this firefighter. Most likely had a gun on him ( no CHL is needed for firefighter in TX?)
1 BG is DEAD.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/09/19/home ... -his-home/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
different aspect of the story, (maybe there was 2 BGs)
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Police-i ... 58628.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1 BG is DEAD.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/09/19/home ... -his-home/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
different aspect of the story, (maybe there was 2 BGs)
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Police-i ... 58628.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Maybe. If there is evidence of break-in, then BG could be. The first I thought BG do not drive their cars to their target houses.Oldgringo wrote:Hmmm? Maybe there no BG's?
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
A fireman can conceal carry without a CHL? Is that right?
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Not to my knowledge. My son-in-law took his CHL from a fellow Captain who is an instructor.ninemm wrote:A fireman can conceal carry without a CHL? Is that right?
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Unless a firefighter is also a sworn peace officer (fire marshal, arson investigator, etc.) he needs a chl just like everyone else. I didn't see anything in the article that said he was doing anything that required a chl though.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
kudos to this homeowner.
lesson to us all: don't be condition white when entering your own home!
lesson to us all: don't be condition white when entering your own home!
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
I would imagine that carrying from your car to your house under the MPA pretty-much covers anyone without a CHL.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Purplehood wrote:I would imagine that carrying from your car to your house under the MPA pretty-much covers anyone without a CHL.
You would be correct, as long as they dont fall under the four exceptions.
We must never take our security for granted, even (or more) when we are at home. I am never "happy" that someone died, even a bad guy, but I am very pleased that the homeowner and his family are ok. I can live with that difference.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
"Some" firefighters are also "peace officers" ....KRM45 wrote:Unless a firefighter is also a sworn peace officer (fire marshal, arson investigator, etc.) he needs a chl just like everyone else. I didn't see anything in the article that said he was doing anything that required a chl though.
Texas Code of Criminal Procedure - Article 2.12.
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... m/CR.2.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Art. 2.12. WHO ARE PEACE OFFICERS. The following are peace officers:
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(36) the fire marshal and any related officers, inspectors, or investigators commissioned by a county under Subchapter B, Chapter 352, Local Government Code.
Subchapter B, Chapter 352, Local Government Code
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/S ... LG.352.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All firefighters are not Paramedics nor EMTs nor Peace officers .... some are.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Technically according to 46.02 you are only covered on the way to your car and are breaking the law on your way back from the car if you have to walk across anything that isn't your property.Purplehood wrote:I would imagine that carrying from your car to your house under the MPA pretty-much covers anyone without a CHL.
"(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control."
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
What I don't get is why the homeowner has been placed on administrative leave A) for a shooting at his own home, B) while off duty and C) is in a completely different city from where he is employeed....how does that work?Wilson will be placed on administrative leave while police further investigate the crime.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Probably to give him time to process what has just happened to him. Perhaps the city wants him to seek counseling. Just me guessing though.MedicMan218 wrote:What I don't get is why the homeowner has been placed on administrative leave A) for a shooting at his own home, B) while off duty and C) is in a completely different city from where he is employeed....how does that work?Wilson will be placed on administrative leave while police further investigate the crime.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
Liabilities to city, cheaper to put him on admin leave with pay then to be sued.MedicMan218 wrote:What I don't get is why the homeowner has been placed on administrative leave A) for a shooting at his own home, B) while off duty and C) is in a completely different city from where he is employeed....how does that work?Wilson will be placed on administrative leave while police further investigate the crime.
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Re: Walking into your house while being burglarized!
The city can't be sued any more than my boss or yours for things that happen while off duty.
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