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Reciprocity meaning

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If I get my CHL in Texas, then move to North Carolina, does reciprocity mean that my license is recognized in North Carolina until it expires even though I develop a residence there? Is it voided as soon as I get a NC driver's license? I am not sure about the limits of reciprocity.
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As far as Texas is concerned, your Texas CHL is valid until expiration as long as you update your address and don't do anything (like get indicted for bank robbery) that would destroy your eligibility.

Whether North Carolina accepts your Texas CHL after you leave Texas is up to North Carolina.
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Once you change residency and have a new driver license from the new state, you can assume that your TX CHL is no more valid.
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Beiruty wrote:Once you change residency and have a new driver license from the new state, you can assume that your TX CHL is no more valid.
Just curious but on what are you basing this?

I ask because I have a friend who had a TN CHL and a TX DL. The TN CHL was good until it expired at which time he got his TX CHL. I imagine that it's up to NC as to whether they accept it or not.
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Usually, a DL is proof of which state you are resident. You can't have 2 DL from 2 states at the same time.
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Beiruty wrote:Usually, a DL is proof of which state you are resident. You can't have 2 DL from 2 states at the same time.
Right. But I never said he had 2 DLs. He had a CHL from TN and a DL from TX. GC 411.173 covers Non-Resident CHLs.
GC §411.173. NONRESIDENT LICENSE. (a) The department by rule shall establish a procedure for a person who meets the eligibility requirements of this subchapter other than the residency requirement established by Section 411.172(a)(1) to obtain a license under this subchapter if the person is a legal resident of a state another  state or if the person relocates to this state with the intent to establish resi- dency in this state. The procedure must include payment of a fee in an amount sufficient to recover the average cost to the department of obtaining a criminal history record check and investigation on a nonresident applicant. A license issued in accordance with the proce- dure established under this subsection:
(1) remains in effect until the license expires under Section 411.183; and
(2) may be renewed under Section 411.185.

TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS GC §411.174. 7
(a-1)*[repealed by Act effective September 1, 2005, 79th Leg., R.S., H.B. 225, §4.]
(b) The governor shall negotiate an agreement with any other state that provides for the issuance of a license to carry a concealed handgun under which a license issued by the other state is recognized in this state or shall issue a proclamation that a license issued by the other state is recognized in this state if the attorney general of the State of Texas determines that a background check of each applicant for a license issued by that state is initiated by state or local authorities or an agent of the state or local authorities before the license is issued. For purposes of this subsection, "background check" means a search of the National Crime Information Center database and the Interstate Identification Index maintained by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
(c) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall annually:
(1) submit a report to the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker of the house of representatives listing the states the attorney general has determined qualify for recognition under Subsection (b);
and
(2) review the statutes of states that the attorney general has
determined do not qualify for recognition under Subsection (b) to determine the changes to their statutes that are necessary to qualify for recognition under that subsection.
(d) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall submit the report required by Subsection (c)(1) not later than January 1 of each calendar year.
So it still seems to me that as far as Texas is concerned, he can get an NC DL (which would require him to turn in his TX DL), update his address with TX DPS, and keep his TX CHL (with updated address, of course). Now whether NC has a problem with that or not is a different question.
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Beiruty wrote:Usually, a DL is proof of which state you are resident. You can't have 2 DL from 2 states at the same time.
When I was younger I went to renew my DL and they sent me two by mistake . Then I moved to Oregon and I got my license there. When I surrendered my Tx license I only gave them one of the two tx dl's. So I did have 2 dl's from 2 different states. Not that it was legal but I did. What can I say, I was a teenager and wanted to buck the system :evil2:
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Beiruty wrote:Usually, a DL is proof of which state you are resident. You can't have 2 DL from 2 states at the same time.
You can, however, have concealed handgun licenses from multiple states simultaneously. In fact, as of May this year, Utah will not issue their CFP to a Texas resident unless the Texan already has a Texas CHL.

The reciprocity law in North Carolina does not seem to distinguish between resident and nonresident licenses from other states.
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Beiruty wrote:Once you change residency and have a new driver license from the new state, you can assume that your TX CHL is no more valid.
Not accurate.

Texas offers non-resident CHL's. All you have to do is update TX DPS with new address and driver's license.

I did the same thing in reverse. I got my TX non-resident CHL with my OH driver's license. When I moved here, I got a Texas drivers license and updated TX DPS CHL with my address & DL. I currently hold concealed handgun licenses from Texas, Ohio, Utah, and Pennsylvania.
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