Does it really matter if you shoot some of the so called dirty ammo if you clean ya firearm at the range or as soon you get home.
When I really don't feel like picking up my NO-BRASS I shoot Tula steel cases yeah it shoots a bit dirty. But
I stop at my bench and give my .45 and .380 a very good cleaning before I walk in the house.
My grandaddy was the one who would make me get the old kit out and clean his gun and oil it when he came in from shooting.
I guess who habits are very hard to break.
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I thought the same way when Academy had their Monarch Steel Ammo on sale pretty cheap for my 9mm.
I should a couple boxes through, then had fail to feeds / fail to ejects.
I did clean my weapon regularly, but with Brass, every 300 rounds or so, with steel, had to do it after 100 rounds, heck, that was less than 1 range visit.
I also think it gummed up 1 of my magazines, which took a while to come back into proper springyness...
So i will no longer shoot Steel, but if you do not mind cleaning your weapon more often or even during the shooting session, feel free
I should a couple boxes through, then had fail to feeds / fail to ejects.
I did clean my weapon regularly, but with Brass, every 300 rounds or so, with steel, had to do it after 100 rounds, heck, that was less than 1 range visit.
I also think it gummed up 1 of my magazines, which took a while to come back into proper springyness...
So i will no longer shoot Steel, but if you do not mind cleaning your weapon more often or even during the shooting session, feel free
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Just get a real gun. Glock's don't have this problem
Seriously though, I shoot steel through my AK (mainly because I can't find much locally available brass 7.62 X 39 that isn't super expensive). I would also readily shoot steel through my Glocks if needed, but I have been able to find fairly inexpensive brass 9 MM and .45 cal, so I haven't seen a need for this.
For full disclosure, I clean all my guns after every range session. Usually a quick wipedown with a take-along cloth in the range parking lot, and then a full breakdown and cleaning within 48 hours at the most (but I try to do it the same day).
Seriously though, I shoot steel through my AK (mainly because I can't find much locally available brass 7.62 X 39 that isn't super expensive). I would also readily shoot steel through my Glocks if needed, but I have been able to find fairly inexpensive brass 9 MM and .45 cal, so I haven't seen a need for this.
For full disclosure, I clean all my guns after every range session. Usually a quick wipedown with a take-along cloth in the range parking lot, and then a full breakdown and cleaning within 48 hours at the most (but I try to do it the same day).
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I have shot steel and aluminum cased ammo in my pistols, although I don't make a regular practice of it.
But every single time I've seen a stuck case in an AR15 that wouldn't come out without banging on it with a wooden down pushed down the barrel, it was Wolf, or Tula, or some other cheap Russkie made steel cased ammo with a varnish coating of some kind on it. I've seen it enough times in someone else's rifle to convince myself to never use it in my own.
But every single time I've seen a stuck case in an AR15 that wouldn't come out without banging on it with a wooden down pushed down the barrel, it was Wolf, or Tula, or some other cheap Russkie made steel cased ammo with a varnish coating of some kind on it. I've seen it enough times in someone else's rifle to convince myself to never use it in my own.
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Re: Shooting so called Dirty Ammo.. No problem if .......
glocks do have that problem, at least mine does along with my P89 and any other 9mm I have shot steel wolf through. I get about 1 jam of some type every 3-400 rds. with this stuff. I have never had either in the P89 or Glock while firing brass case ammo any type. As for the 7.62 in AK's, never had a jjam in 3 different AK's with 10,000 plus rounds of steel case ammo from every comblock country there ever was. They were made to eat that stuff and eat it they do.
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I shoot the russian Brown and Silver Bear 9x18 ammo regularly through my milsurp CZ-82. I clean it as regularly as I clean my more modern semi-autos. No probs whatsoever. Yeah, the Russian stuff seems a bit more dirty, but not TOO much more dirty.
However, I don't make a practice of shooting steel through my modern handguns.
However, I don't make a practice of shooting steel through my modern handguns.
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I took a chance on a deal for 500 rounds of Wolf brand ammo and ran off to the range with them.
After two hundred rounds with no problem from three guns I figured that's good and came home.
Cleaning too a little longer. The barrels were really grungy. A bore snake and Hoppe's #9 took care of that.
Can't wait to go shoot up the rest of it.
After two hundred rounds with no problem from three guns I figured that's good and came home.
Cleaning too a little longer. The barrels were really grungy. A bore snake and Hoppe's #9 took care of that.
Can't wait to go shoot up the rest of it.
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Followup on shooting dirty ammo:
I was closing in on the second box of Wolf 9mm steel when one of the rounds failed to extract and was so tight that the gun could not cycle. Having my carry piece in such a condition was unacceptable so I drove directly to my favorite gunshop and got some help. While the smith was digging it out a salesman suggested that I use only American made ammo from now on.
Roger that, man!
I was closing in on the second box of Wolf 9mm steel when one of the rounds failed to extract and was so tight that the gun could not cycle. Having my carry piece in such a condition was unacceptable so I drove directly to my favorite gunshop and got some help. While the smith was digging it out a salesman suggested that I use only American made ammo from now on.
Roger that, man!
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