Carry for non-CHL holder on personal property

[ScottDLS]

There was a discussion of this while back. The short answer is that a "premises/property under your control"... i.e. your home, business, business that you manage is pretty clear that you can carry, openly or concealed. Tougher question is private property where you are a guest...can you carry openly?...even with property owner's permission? By the letter of the law (46.02), no...depending on what the meaning of "property under your control".

[JNMAR]

There was a discussion of this while back. The short answer is that a "premises/property under your control"... i.e. your home, business, business that you manage is pretty clear that you can carry, openly or concealed. Tougher question is private property where you are a guest...can you carry openly?...even with property owner's permission? By the letter of the law (46.02), no...depending on what the meaning of "property under your control".

I think you may have overlooked that if you're a hunting or sporting guest...it would be no different than carrying at a shooting range. Too late for me to look up that exception. If you claimed hunting then I believe you'd need to have a current hunting license but if for the stated purpose of sporting, ie. shooting cans, leaves, targets, or whatever then I don't believe there'd be any question that you would be legal to carry, concealed or open, just as much as you would be at a shooting range.

[cbr600]

In the context of the original question, I think it might be a tough sell for a car mechanic to claim that he's engaging in sport shooting at work, especially if he's inside city limits and there are muni ordinances regulating discharge of a firearm. YMMV.

However, his business would qualify as premises under his control, as stated on the first page.

[Jumping Frog]

and for those who will inevitably ask, the reason this person hasn't gotten a CHL yet is because he's open 6 days a week and doesn't have a single employee who's dependable enough at the moment to run the place if he were to take a day off to take the course. i told him he could take a course on a sunday here in Houston but he's normally out of town tending to property and livestock he owns in other counties.

He could take the online Texas Hunter Education course & test, and then take the 4 hour Texas Hunter Education field training. That would qualify him to get a Florida non-resident license.

[rmr1923]

and for those who will inevitably ask, the reason this person hasn't gotten a CHL yet is because he's open 6 days a week and doesn't have a single employee who's dependable enough at the moment to run the place if he were to take a day off to take the course. i told him he could take a course on a sunday here in Houston but he's normally out of town tending to property and livestock he owns in other counties.

He could take the online Texas Hunter Education course & test, and then take the 4 hour Texas Hunter Education field training. That would qualify him to get a Florida non-resident license.

how long would that be valid in Texas? i'm not very up-to-date on the current Texas legislative session but isn't there a proposed bill that would require Texas residents to hold a Texas CHL?

this man also happens to be my father and due to his stubborn nature he's not taking much of my advice at the moment, but my sister and i are trying to get him to just let us run the shop one saturday so he can take the course and get it over with. money isn't an issue, he's just a control freak when it comes to his business and he feels like the building will fall to the ground if he isn't there to hold it up. i'm trying to get him to come to Houston one weekend to take Randy Reiner's course, he worked with me and let me split it up into 2 days because i wasn't able to take it all in one day.

[Shoot Straight]

That would qualify him to get a Florida non-resident license.

how long would that be valid in Texas?

Seven years unless F-rated Loony gets his bill passed.

i'm not very up-to-date on the current Texas legislative session but isn't there a proposed bill that would require Texas residents to hold a Texas CHL?

There are many bills that have been filed. There are close to half a dozen campus carry bills, and I doubt more than one of them will become law.

money isn't an issue, he's just a control freak when it comes to his business and he feels like the building will fall to the ground if he isn't there to hold it up.

Is he open evenings? Is there any way he can skip his other obligations and do a Sunday class?

If someone meets the requirements, and the higher costs aren't an issue, I suggest a Texas CHL for Texas residents. Not because of any jingoism, but because it does have a few small advantages such as Federal GFSZA exemption and NICS exemption.