How was your fair experience?

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

What was your experience at the fair?

Poll ended at Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:32 am

Announced CHL to security and waved in.
1
2%
Announced CHL to security, wanded then allowed to go on.
1
2%
Displayed CHL to security then waved in with or without wanding.
6
12%
Had to wait for security supervisor, showed ID and no info collected.
3
6%
Had to wait for security supervisor, showed ID and info collected.
0
No votes
Escorted to DPD at gate to verify CHL and allowed in.
19
38%
Not Wanded and walked in.
5
10%
Wanded but weapon not discovered, walked in.
6
12%
Other. Please elaborate in reply.
9
18%
 
Total votes: 50


magillapd
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:44 am
Location: DFW

Re: How was your fair experience?

#91

Post by magillapd »

Went to State Fair yesterday, unarmed (Don't have holster yet) Anyways to start with, didn't realize that it was a holiday yesterday, fair was croweded. When going thru wander, search was so quick, it beeped but she never asked about it (was keys cliped to my belt look, covered by shirt) Anyways, the way she wanded me, she would have never found a gun even if I had it.

As for the Old Mill, we went there for lunch. I have to say the food is great and not expensive, much cheaper then the fair food. Anyway, it is not posted 30.06, it is posted unlicensed possesion is illegal. There was a sign on the glass by the front door that was covered up by a sign that pointed people to public restrooms. ON the inside wall next to the door, this was posted.
Image

Anyways, I don't see why you can't carry in there when there is no 30.06 sign posted. Great BBQ sandwiches!!
“I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”
NRA- Life member :patriot:
TSRA - Conditional Life Member :txflag:
User avatar

ScottDLS
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 4
Posts: 5073
Joined: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:04 am
Location: DFW Area, TX

Re: How was your fair experience?

#92

Post by ScottDLS »

magillapd wrote:Went to State Fair yesterday, unarmed (Don't have holster yet) Anyways to start with, didn't realize that it was a holiday yesterday, fair was croweded. When going thru wander, search was so quick, it beeped but she never asked about it (was keys cliped to my belt look, covered by shirt) Anyways, the way she wanded me, she would have never found a gun even if I had it.

As for the Old Mill, we went there for lunch. I have to say the food is great and not expensive, much cheaper then the fair food. Anyway, it is not posted 30.06, it is posted unlicensed possesion is illegal. There was a sign on the glass by the front door that was covered up by a sign that pointed people to public restrooms. ON the inside wall next to the door, this was posted.
Image

Anyways, I don't see why you can't carry in there when there is no 30.06 sign posted. Great BBQ sandwiches!!
Based on your experience, it appears that the DPD warning not to carry in the Old Mill was incorrect information. Cotton Bowl too except during games.
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"

BrianSW99
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 7
Posts: 659
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:51 am

Re: How was your fair experience?

#93

Post by BrianSW99 »

Saw a number of CHL possibilities yesterday, the two most prominent of which were a guy in a gray Under Armour type shirt with Glock hat and my wife saw a guy in a black t-shirt with an over-large blue Hawaiian shirt with red flowers around the bottom that had only one button around the hips buttoned.

My wife asked a Dallas police sergeant why they're telling people they can't carry in the Old Mill.

He said that the State Fair made the rule and told them to say that. When she explained that it was city property and couldn't be restricted under 30.06, he said he didn't know what 30.06 was but that the state fair is leasing the property so it is private property and they can restrict anyone they want. As his explanation/proof, he said that it is just like Six Flags and that Six Flags doesn't even allow police officers to carry so the State Fair can certainly restrict you from two places if they want.

When she pointed out that the Cotton Bowl was restricted because it was only open during a game and that meant it didn't fall under 30.06 and asked why the Old Mill didn't have a 30.06 sign if it is restricted, he had no clue why a game was different and he said he had no interest in knowing it, either. He said when he retires that he'll have no interest in carrying. The implication was that anyone who carried was seeking out trouble/a wannabee cop. He was getting pretty defensive so she dropped it and thanked him for his time.
User avatar

Lonest4r
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:42 pm
Location: Galveston

Re: How was your fair experience?

#94

Post by Lonest4r »

I went to the fair today. It was about 6:30 pm and I approached the security person wanding the other guests. The lady had one big "diamond" stud in her ear and seemed a little abbrasive. I was already expecting trouble by her posture and body language. When I asked to see her supervisor she questioned why and I then asked to be escorted to DPD to handle it. She still seemed clueless and asked if I had a weapon. I told her that I had a permit and that DPD would be able to verify everything. She then proceeds to turn around to her supervisor and yells to him "ive got a weapon here." He comes over and walks me over to the gate area where I wait only about a minute for the DPD officer. The officer takes my DL and CHL and compares them for 30 seconds then hands them back to me and says thank you. I then turned back around to exchange my Dr. Pepper can for a $3 ticket voucher and walk with my fiance in to the fair.
Overall it was fun, I was carrying a Firestar M40 in a Galco IWB and a Taurus TCP in a homemade kydex front pocket holster. Beside the fact that I was outed by the security lady, the supervisor and DPD officer were very courteous. The DPD officer even seemed pretty friendly. :txflag:
LONEST4R
7/24/10 Class- 8/28/10 Plastic!
Glock 26 in Horsehide Supertuck
User avatar

sjfcontrol
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 8
Posts: 6267
Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:14 am
Location: Flint, TX

Re: How was your fair experience?

#95

Post by sjfcontrol »

BrianSW99 wrote:My wife asked a Dallas police sergeant why they're telling people they can't carry in the Old Mill.

He said that the State Fair made the rule and told them to say that. When she explained that it was city property and couldn't be restricted under 30.06, he said he didn't know what 30.06 was but that the state fair is leasing the property so it is private property and they can restrict anyone they want. As his explanation/proof, he said that it is just like Six Flags and that Six Flags doesn't even allow police officers to carry so the State Fair can certainly restrict you from two places if they want.

When she pointed out that the Cotton Bowl was restricted because it was only open during a game and that meant it didn't fall under 30.06 and asked why the Old Mill didn't have a 30.06 sign if it is restricted, he had no clue why a game was different and he said he had no interest in knowing it, either. He said when he retires that he'll have no interest in carrying. The implication was that anyone who carried was seeking out trouble/a wannabee cop. He was getting pretty defensive so she dropped it and thanked him for his time.
It simply amazes me how someone charged with enforcing the law can be so indifferent to it. He should stick to traffic control.
Range Rule: "The front gate lock is not an acceptable target."
Never Forget. Image
User avatar

Topic author
Dragonfighter
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 15
Posts: 2315
Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:02 pm
Contact:

Re: How was your fair experience?

#96

Post by Dragonfighter »

Lonest4r wrote:I went to the fair today. It was about 6:30 pm and I approached the security person wanding the other guests. The lady had one big "diamond" stud in her ear and seemed a little abbrasive. I was already expecting trouble by her posture and body language. When I asked to see her supervisor she questioned why and I then asked to be escorted to DPD to handle it. She still seemed clueless and asked if I had a weapon. I told her that I had a permit and that DPD would be able to verify everything. She then proceeds to turn around to her supervisor and yells to him "ive got a weapon here." He comes over and walks me over to the gate area where I wait only about a minute for the DPD officer. The officer takes my DL and CHL and compares them for 30 seconds then hands them back to me and says thank you. I then turned back around to exchange my Dr. Pepper can for a $3 ticket voucher and walk with my fiance in to the fair.
Overall it was fun, I was carrying a Firestar M40 in a Galco IWB and a Taurus TCP in a homemade kydex front pocket holster. Beside the fact that I was outed by the security lady, the supervisor and DPD officer were very courteous. The DPD officer even seemed pretty friendly. :txflag:
Which gate? I think I'm seeing a trend here.
I Thess 5:21
Disclaimer: IANAL, IANYL, IDNPOOTV, IDNSIAHIE and IANROFL
"There is no situation so bad that you can't make it worse." - Chris Hadfield, NASA ISS Astronaut
User avatar

loneaggie
Junior Member
Posts in topic: 1
Posts: 30
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:23 am
Location: DFW, TX
Contact:

Re: How was your fair experience?

#97

Post by loneaggie »

I was a little nervous, but simply had my CHL ready to hand the security personnel that were wanding, they walked me over to DPD. DPD walked to the side with me saying "So no one gets up in your business." Checked my DL vs my CHL, and told me to have a nice day. Caught up to my gf, and in we went. Spent about 5 hours, had a great time. Except I must say, Fried Beer was a HORRIBLE idea.
Gig'em,
Loneaggie
Beretta PX4 9mm
S&W Sigma .40
User avatar

Lonest4r
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:42 pm
Location: Galveston

Re: How was your fair experience?

#98

Post by Lonest4r »

Dragonfighter wrote:Which gate? I think I'm seeing a trend here.
Gate 11 by the official state fair on-site parking
LONEST4R
7/24/10 Class- 8/28/10 Plastic!
Glock 26 in Horsehide Supertuck

magillapd
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:44 am
Location: DFW

Re: How was your fair experience?

#99

Post by magillapd »

BrianSW99 wrote:Saw a number of CHL possibilities yesterday, the two most prominent of which were a guy in a gray Under Armour type shirt with Glock hat and my wife saw a guy in a black t-shirt with an over-large blue Hawaiian shirt with red flowers around the bottom that had only one button around the hips buttoned.

My wife asked a Dallas police sergeant why they're telling people they can't carry in the Old Mill.

He said that the State Fair made the rule and told them to say that. When she explained that it was city property and couldn't be restricted under 30.06, he said he didn't know what 30.06 was but that the state fair is leasing the property so it is private property and they can restrict anyone they want. As his explanation/proof, he said that it is just like Six Flags and that Six Flags doesn't even allow police officers to carry so the State Fair can certainly restrict you from two places if they want.

When she pointed out that the Cotton Bowl was restricted because it was only open during a game and that meant it didn't fall under 30.06 and asked why the Old Mill didn't have a 30.06 sign if it is restricted, he had no clue why a game was different and he said he had no interest in knowing it, either. He said when he retires that he'll have no interest in carrying. The implication was that anyone who carried was seeking out trouble/a wannabee cop. He was getting pretty defensive so she dropped it and thanked him for his time.
Now this is funny. Of course I took the picture posted above that day at the fair. I happened to be a guy that was wearing a gray underarmour type shirt with a glock hat. If that "guy" you saw was with his wife and 2 older ladies, then I'd have to say that you spotted me!! haha. If so, you would have been right had my IWB holster come in on time. I wore my glock hat to at least bring some type of gun to the fair!!!

As for the DPD officer, I beleive it. I told my wife that honestly out of all the cops that I saw, either sleeping in the life guard type towers or kicking back in the golf carts talking with each other. They only ones that gave me any sense of safety were the horse mounted police. They were the only ones with their game faces on.
“I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”
NRA- Life member :patriot:
TSRA - Conditional Life Member :txflag:

BrianSW99
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 7
Posts: 659
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:51 am

Re: How was your fair experience?

#100

Post by BrianSW99 »

magillapd wrote: Now this is funny. Of course I took the picture posted above that day at the fair. I happened to be a guy that was wearing a gray underarmour type shirt with a glock hat. If that "guy" you saw was with his wife and 2 older ladies, then I'd have to say that you spotted me!! haha. If so, you would have been right had my IWB holster come in on time. I wore my glock hat to at least bring some type of gun to the fair!!!
If that was you, then I passed you while you were standing by the Cotton Bowl near a set of steps. I was wearing a green shirt, khaki pants and my IDPA hat that has the logo with a gun prominently on the front. I nodded to you as I passed. There wasn't anyone else around you at the time.

BrianSW99
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 7
Posts: 659
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:51 am

Re: How was your fair experience?

#101

Post by BrianSW99 »

It looks like according to the map we went in gate 9. I showed my CHL to the wander who directed me to a supervisor. I told the supervisor I had a CHL and she walked me over the the Dallas PD officer who looked at my CHL and drivers license. He just told me not to go into the Cotton Bowl or the Old Mill Inn and wished me a good time at the fair.
User avatar

The Annoyed Man
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 7
Posts: 26852
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 pm
Location: North Richland Hills, Texas
Contact:

Re: How was your fair experience?

#102

Post by The Annoyed Man »

BrianSW99 wrote:
magillapd wrote: Now this is funny. Of course I took the picture posted above that day at the fair. I happened to be a guy that was wearing a gray underarmour type shirt with a glock hat. If that "guy" you saw was with his wife and 2 older ladies, then I'd have to say that you spotted me!! haha. If so, you would have been right had my IWB holster come in on time. I wore my glock hat to at least bring some type of gun to the fair!!!
If that was you, then I passed you while you were standing by the Cotton Bowl near a set of steps. I was wearing a green shirt, khaki pants and my IDPA hat that has the logo with a gun prominently on the front. I nodded to you as I passed. There wasn't anyone else around you at the time.
If either of you saw a fit young man, wearing a loose fitting guayabera shirt, cargo shorts with a something bulging in the left front pocket a bit (maybe a revolver?), flip-flop sandals, and a beach-comber hat.....

....that wasn't me. "rlol"
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"

#TINVOWOOT
User avatar

Lonest4r
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:42 pm
Location: Galveston

Re: How was your fair experience?

#103

Post by Lonest4r »

I wore a gray Dallas Cowboys shirt with jeans. I doubt anyone would have suspected me for a CHLer though. My gun was pretty well concealed and I got there as it was getting dark.
LONEST4R
7/24/10 Class- 8/28/10 Plastic!
Glock 26 in Horsehide Supertuck
User avatar

Lonest4r
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 322
Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:42 pm
Location: Galveston

Re: How was your fair experience?

#104

Post by Lonest4r »

I should say guns technically. I almost forgot I had the Taurus with me!
LONEST4R
7/24/10 Class- 8/28/10 Plastic!
Glock 26 in Horsehide Supertuck

magillapd
Senior Member
Posts in topic: 5
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:44 am
Location: DFW

Re: How was your fair experience?

#105

Post by magillapd »

BrianSW99 wrote:
magillapd wrote: Now this is funny. Of course I took the picture posted above that day at the fair. I happened to be a guy that was wearing a gray underarmour type shirt with a glock hat. If that "guy" you saw was with his wife and 2 older ladies, then I'd have to say that you spotted me!! haha. If so, you would have been right had my IWB holster come in on time. I wore my glock hat to at least bring some type of gun to the fair!!!
If that was you, then I passed you while you were standing by the Cotton Bowl near a set of steps. I was wearing a green shirt, khaki pants and my IDPA hat that has the logo with a gun prominently on the front. I nodded to you as I passed. There wasn't anyone else around you at the time.
Yep, that was me. I was standing there waiting for the girls to get out of the restroom. I remember someone nodding to me while I was there. Awesome. Kudos for being more observent then I was. :cheers2:
“I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”
NRA- Life member :patriot:
TSRA - Conditional Life Member :txflag:
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”