Carrying at Church
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Re: Carrying at Church
The mens group at my church goes shooting together, and about half of us carry on a regular basis. We have one priest who asks when we are shooting clays again...total nut for the sport.
I doubt if our priests carry, but there are enough of the flock that do.
I doubt if our priests carry, but there are enough of the flock that do.
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Re: Carrying at Church
ROFL!longtooth wrote:Shame on him. He should have been carrying it like a good Baptist.
I still carry in church, and my mother thinks I'm offending God.
I used to carry on my body, but now I carry in the diaper bag. When I take Hannah to her Sunday school class, I have a smaller bag folded up, and I just put a few diapers, wetbag (we use cloth diapers), and her sippy cup in it, and I keep the main bag with me.
Once I wean Hannah (or at least get her to the point where she only eats at home), I'll start carrying in the waistband again.
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Re: Carrying at Church
Bringing the instruments of death into the house of the Lord and all that. I'm sure lots of people think it's wrong. Disarming in places of worship probably goes back to the days of bronze swords in some cultures. If I could have a gaurantee that God would strike dead any evildoer attempting to enter his house with a weapon in hand and foul deeds in his heart, then maybe wouldn't feel the need to bring mine. Until then, I think it's our responsibility to look after ourselves, no matter where we are.Venus Pax wrote:I still carry in church, and my mother thinks I'm offending God.
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I remember after the Wedgwood shooting in Fort Worth, I was asked at the station what would happen if something like that occurred at my congregation. I looked up from my coffee and said, "About six would return fire."
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"Bringing the instruments of death into the house of the Lord and all that"mgood wrote:Bringing the instruments of death into the house of the Lord and all that. I'm sure lots of people think it's wrong. Disarming in places of worship probably goes back to the days of bronze swords in some cultures. If I could have a guarantee that God would strike dead any evildoer attempting to enter his house with a weapon in hand and foul deeds in his heart, then maybe wouldn't feel the need to bring mine. Until then, I think it's our responsibility to look after ourselves, no matter where we are.Venus Pax wrote:I still carry in church, and my mother thinks I'm offending God.
I have been to lots of churches which have at least one cross.
Historically, guns are less lethal than crosses, showing that in our church, we respect life, and intend to protect it.
Every armed CHL ion our church knows to shoot to STOP, rather than shoot to kill. The number of bullets a person of evil intentions requires to get the message to stop, is up to him.
As at Dragonfighter's church, at least 6 would return fire, including the Pastor and Deacons and ex-LEO and his CHL girlfriend and others in the congregation.
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Re: Carrying at Church
I go to a small biker freindly church and I know of at least 12 that carry including myself. Not for sure how many carry.
In our mens bible study about a year ago, there was a topic about defending yourself. Our associate pastor made comment that he always carries a gun and one of the men screamed "you carry a gun in church". The pastor told him that he would be surprised at how many were carrying in there. After all, we just a bunch of bikers. Shut him up pretty quick.
No on the side note to that story, the man that made that outburst, has since gotten his chl and I am sure he carries in church.
In our mens bible study about a year ago, there was a topic about defending yourself. Our associate pastor made comment that he always carries a gun and one of the men screamed "you carry a gun in church". The pastor told him that he would be surprised at how many were carrying in there. After all, we just a bunch of bikers. Shut him up pretty quick.
No on the side note to that story, the man that made that outburst, has since gotten his chl and I am sure he carries in church.
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Re: Carrying at Church
Anyone who locks their car doors in a church parking lot should consider it okay for someone who's licensed to carry in church.
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Now there's an excellent point!longhornmike wrote:Anyone who locks their car doors in a church parking lot should consider it okay for someone who's licensed to carry in church.
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I could not help but notice your location is College Station. I was born and raised here and currently hanging out with the "roommates" (parents) before starting grad school. What church did you go to? Was it in College Station?
SigOperator02 wrote:Today, I carried in Church this for the first time in my life. The Elders, Deacons, my father and several members that are LEO, Active and Retired Military carry. I have never really been comfortable with carrying in church. It feels kinda silly to think about it now but I don't know why I thought that. I have not been to my parents church in years and was home before school starts for me on Tuesday. It's been five years and everyone still remembers and acts like I had never left. Everyone was in a huging mood, which made me nervous because I did not want people to freak out. I must have made it through a hundred hugs and then our Preacher had to give me a great big bear hug. He noticed and pulled me off to the side and asked me "What are you carrying" and I replied "My German made friend and eight of his American made cousin's." He quickly showed me his Sig 220R Carry in his shoulder holster and I showed him my Sig 220 in my C-Tac IWB. He said "If any Wolves try coming and hurting this flock, they will find Wolves in sheep clothing waiting for them!" I might have to go more often during trips home or on school break.
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Many here go to churches where hugging is common .... the only advice I can offer is "Go Low"
In other words, Put your arms lower than theirs, so they hug your neck.
In other words, Put your arms lower than theirs, so they hug your neck.
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But the legal definition of premises is a building or portion of a building and the parking lot is therefore not part of the House of God premises.Warhammer wrote:Now there's an excellent point!longhornmike wrote:Anyone who locks their car doors in a church parking lot should consider it okay for someone who's licensed to carry in church.
How about locking church doors?
And this does nothing for the argument that if they are martyred for their faith while attending church that they accept that martyr's death willingly. Some people are much better at that having no earthly attachments or cares bit than I am.
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I am in the Choir at a large Church. I always sit in the middle of the choir where I have the main aisle directly in front of me. I have a good view of all that enter and leave the worship service. I have added a Crimson trace laser to my Glock to hopefully make my shots more accurate in a tight envirnoment. I hope and pray that I am not the only good guy carrying because the pulpit area will probably be the first target for any bad guys.
I also go to a 'hugging" church. I carry on the left side, so I have learned to put my left hip against the hugger and they put their hand on my right side away from the gun.
I also go to a 'hugging" church. I carry on the left side, so I have learned to put my left hip against the hugger and they put their hand on my right side away from the gun.
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Re: Carrying in Church....
i need text:
where does it say you can carry in church ?
i'm reading at.
page 40 of texas concealed handgun laws.
2007-2008.
printed 8/2008.
PC 46.035 (b) (6)
Thanks to Hoi Polloi below for the answer.
where does it say you can carry in church ?
i'm reading at.
page 40 of texas concealed handgun laws.
2007-2008.
printed 8/2008.
PC 46.035 (b) (6)
Thanks to Hoi Polloi below for the answer.
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§ 46.035 (i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.phil evans wrote:i need text:
where does it say you can carry in church ?
i'm reading at.
page 40 of texas concealed handgun laws.
2007-2008.
printed 8/2008.
PC 46.035 (b) (6)
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That's genius!!!!!!RPB wrote:Many here go to churches where hugging is common .... the only advice I can offer is "Go Low"
In other words, Put your arms lower than theirs, so they hug your neck.
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