Attempted rape / pepper spray / issue

[Crossfire]

What is blind date and how one ends with a female in private place, his place, her place or a hotel room? The lady has lack of judgment and some of the responsibility to be vurnable.

Texas CHL Forum is one of the LAST places I would expect to see the "blame the victim" mentality.

[Ropin]

What is blind date and how one ends with a female in private place, his place, her place or a hotel room? The lady has lack of judgment and some of the responsibility to be vurnable.

Texas CHL Forum is one of the LAST places I would expect to see the "blame the victim" mentality.

I agree with Crossfire. Perhaps the young lady did exhibit poor judgement, but that certainly doesn't excuse boorish or criminal behavior from the feller. I don't care if a woman lets a guy buy her dinner, enough drinks to float a sailor, jewelry, flowers and anything else... Even if she goes with him to a private location and they start towards the act.... If she changes her mind and says no, it's off.

I don't think it's right for a woman to treat a man like I just described either....but the fact that small fortune was spent doesn't translate into an automatic next step.

She has the right to say no. A man also has the right to say no. Either way, it should be respected.

[TexasComputerDude]

Well the blind date was a dating site.

She realizes how stupid it was and it's been an eye opener. I think she's gonna pursue the guy and her dad is HOT.

I don't wanna give bad info so I'll post more as I learn it.

[Oldgringo]

Woodrow Call: "I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it". - from Lonesone Dove, circa 1989.

That said, is it possible that manner of speaking, scent, dress, overall appearance and composure can bring about ruttish behavior in the male? The answer is, "YES", look throughout the animal kingdom.

A "blind dating site" did you say? Imagine that, "Surprise"!

[Beiruty]

What is blind date and how one ends with a female in private place, his place, her place or a hotel room? The lady has lack of judgment and some of the responsibility to be vurnable.

Texas CHL Forum is one of the LAST places I would expect to see the "blame the victim" mentality.

I am not saying what the aggressor did is acceptable or justified. My personal belief could be know if anyone Google what Muslims believe about dating and what comes with it. A wise person does not put oneself like prey in harms way.

[Grog]

People in general put themselves in harms way more often than needed. I have bought things from craigslist and most of the time, the people invite me inside. One woman had me get the item out of her bedroom


As for the OC, I can't believe there is such a wide open wording of the law. I would be just as likely to have a 2oz or a 4oz can and would actually get the little lady a $50 fire extinguisher-size version for the house (and prey she does not grab it instead of the fire extinguisher ).

[baldeagle]

I carry it and use it against dogs and cats that are not leashed per city code when walking my dog (yes I pick up my dogs poo) or riding my bike.

Just found this.... http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Possessi ... 91582.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

I will continue to carry OC to heck with 'em.

Texas Penal Code Section 46.01.07 (14) provides a definition as follows "(14) "Chemical dispensing device" means a device, other than a small chemical dispenser sold commercially for personal protection, that is designed, made, or adapted for the purpose of dispensing a substance capable of causing an adverse psychological or physiological effect on a human being."

The key words are other than a small chemical dispenser sold commercially for personal protection.

Texas Penal Code Section 46.05 (a) reads:

§ 46.05. PROHIBITED WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly possesses, manufactures,
transports, repairs, or sells:
(1) an explosive weapon;
(2) a machine gun;
(3) a short-barrel firearm;
(4) a firearm silencer;
(5) a switchblade knife;
(6) knuckles;
(7) armor-piercing ammunition;
(8) a chemical dispensing device; or
(9) a zip gun.

Unless I'm reading this wrong, it appears that commercially available pepper spray is legal. I believe the Wylie Police Chief's interpretation of the law (arguing over the legal meaning of the term "small") focused on the wrong part of the definition. To me the key words in the definition are "sold commercially for personal protection". If the pepper spray is available for sale to the public, then either it's legal to sell to the public (and therefore legal for the public to possess) or the state is not enforcing the law on the dealers. I think it would be helpful for the legislature to clarify the word small in some manner such as "not larger than 6 oz" or something similar to avoid situations like the one this citizen found himself in.

EDITED TO ADD: You can buy 16 oz cans of pepper spray online.

[baldeagle]

I don't have all the facts yet but I have an interesting story.

A girl I know went on a blind date last night and was almost raped. Luckily she had just gone to walmart that day and bought a can of pepper spray.

That wasn't luck. That was her intuition telling her that she might need some protection on a blind date.

[Crossfire]

What is blind date and how one ends with a female in private place, his place, her place or a hotel room? The lady has lack of judgment and some of the responsibility to be vurnable.

Texas CHL Forum is one of the LAST places I would expect to see the "blame the victim" mentality.

I am not saying what the aggressor did is acceptable or justified. My personal belief could be know if anyone Google what Muslims believe about dating and what comes with it. A wise person does not put oneself like prey in harms way.

Yes, Muslims don't date. They engage in arranged marriages. And women keep themselves covered head to toe, and are never allowed to be alone with a man, because, apparently, Muslim men have no responsibility, or ability, to control themselves in the presence of a woman.

So, again, according to you, it is all the fault of the girl. How about we take away her pepper spray and stone her? Would that make you happy?

[Teamless]

. A wise person does not put oneself like prey in harms way.

Prior to marriage, I have been on plenty of dates, and I never once thought about, attempted or committed any offense towards anyone.
Am I better than Muslim's? No idea, but I guess I have more self control

[G.A. Heath]

Poor choice on the lady's part? who knows, the details to make that conclusion are not present in this thread. Is there a case of sexual assault? From the details we have the answer would be yes, but we only have one side of the story. My personal opinion on this is based on what I have read the fault goes entirely to the male. How this involves religion, I have no clue.

[jester]

To give a little perspective on OC canisters, here's a 45g (1.59oz) canister next to some common household objects. I can't fault a police officer for believing an OC canister more than twice this size doesn't meet the definition of a "small" container of OC.

[The Annoyed Man]

What is blind date and how one ends with a female in private place, his place, her place or a hotel room? The lady has lack of judgment and some of the responsibility to be vurnable.

Where, in the OP, does it say anything about where this was? Or are you making assumptions?

Yes, he's making assumptions. The OP did not say where she was. However, he did say that the young lady escaped by running down the road....

...not running down the hall....

...not running out the door....

...not jumping out the window....

...she ran down the road. So we can safely infer that she was in a public place when the assault occurred, or at the very worst, in the suspect's car... ...in a public place.

It is good for her that Sharia Law does not govern jurisprudence in Lufkin, Texas.

[TexasComputerDude]

Woodrow Call: "I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it". - from Lonesone Dove, circa 1989.

That said, is it possible that manner of speaking, scent, dress, overall appearance and composure can bring about ruttish behavior in the male? The answer is, "YES", look throughout the animal kingdom.

A "blind dating site" did you say? Imagine that, "Surprise"!

not exactly blind dating, the site was plentyoffish.com

She had talked to the guy for a while. I'm pretty sure she's not going to be doing the online dating thing anymore.

[Beiruty]

Maybe I stepped into sensitive issue to most of you and my words had been given an extended views that are not mine. To abide by the rules of this forum. I am refraining from further discussion. I will limit my discussion to safety aspect of the original post.