sherman chl incident

[PappaGun]

Well, I can tell you that my Glock 27, holstered and chambered did not go off last night when I dropped it from about waste high.
It hit a corner of the slide hard enough that it put dimple in the wood floor about an eigth of an inch deep.
I puckered, I winced, I prayed, I recollected all the good things that have happened in the last 50 years, all in about the time it takes to blink an eye.
My wife asked me from the kitchen if there was anything she needed to know about the noise she just heard.
No honey, everything's ok.

[surprise_i'm_armed]

PappaGun:

Yes - you puckered and winced.

Just think how us Taurus owners would feel !!! Even worse.

(regarding the recent thread about an Alabama PT111 owner whose gun
discharged on the concrete garage floor even though safety was on).

SIA

[hheremtp]

Well, I can tell you that my Glock 27, holstered and chambered did not go off last night when I dropped it from about waste high.
It hit a corner of the slide hard enough that it put dimple in the wood floor about an eigth of an inch deep.
I puckered, I winced, I prayed, I recollected all the good things that have happened in the last 50 years, all in about the time it takes to blink an eye.
My wife asked me from the kitchen if there was anything she needed to know about the noise she just heard.
No honey, everything's ok.

[TexasGal]

What about he possibility he had altered the trigger pull to a custom pressure and it brushed up against something on the way to the floor? I read in one of Ayoob's books about owners doing this and he advised against it for the most part as I recall. Any thoughts on this?

[Keith B]

What about he possibility he had altered the trigger pull to a custom pressure and it brushed up against something on the way to the floor? I read in one of Ayoob's books about owners doing this and he advised against it for the most part as I recall. Any thoughts on this?

I doubt this it the case as this gun is a single action where you have to manually the hammer back to shoot it and the mechanism is very simple. I am still betting he had the hammer cocked and slid into his coat pocket. When the gun fell, the trigger hit the floor or something on the way to the floor since there is no trigger guard and the gun fired.

[TLynnHughes]

PappaGun:

Yes - you puckered and winced.

Just think how us Taurus owners would feel !!! Even worse.

(regarding the recent thread about an Alabama PT111 owner whose gun
discharged on the concrete garage floor even though safety was on).

SIA

No kidding, SIA. For us Taurus owners, I think puckering and wincing has taken second place to running and diving for cover if we should happen to drop one!

T.

[chabouk]

Could have been a Taurus, I suppose. There's allegedly a safety issue with certain models when they're dropped. Mine is still currently my daily carry, however.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=29054

T.

It was a North American Arms 22 revolver.

Don't those things have an off-chamber notch?

"The North American Arms Safety Cylinder feature allows the gun to be carried fully loaded. There are halfway notches located between the chambers. The hammer is lowered into one of these notches after the gun is loaded. When the hammer is pulled back to the firing position the cylinder rotates to the next chamber."



http://www.naaminis.com/naasafe.html

Yes, they do have those halfway notches, for the very simple reason that the NAA Mini is not drop-safe!

If he had an older Mini without the notches, or if he was carrying it with the hammer resting on the cylinder instead of in the halfway notch, then there's your answer: he dropped a gun that will fire when dropped on the muzzle or hammer.

[Greybeard]

If it was indeed a NAA mini revolver, I'd wager it was carried with the firing pin on the hammer resting on the primer and not in one of the safety notches. And probably got dropped on the hammer.

I've had the 1 5/8" "convertible" for at least a dozen years. And frequently advise any new onwers of these little revolvers, that yes, at some point you WILL drop it. If handled often, probably more than once. Those safety notches are there for a very good reason!

[GatoNegro]

I always carry with a round in the chamber, safety on. I dropped my Taurus PT 111 in the floor in my bathroom. I froze up for second while my mind was racing with the thought "its gonna' go kaboom!"

Nothing happened, but it scared the heck out of me. It is my daily carry and it is very reliable, but I always had that thought, "would it go off?" Now I know.


GatoNegro
Patriot Guard Riders
American Legion Riders
Proud CHL holder
PT 111 Mil Pro

[Dragonfighter]

But I have never dropped, nor even come close to dropping, any kind of firearm — rifle or pistol, loaded or not.

We'll be watching "Never Again" for your story. I give it a year

Don't curse the man, sheesh.

[sjfcontrol]

My wife asked me from the kitchen if there was anything she needed to know about the noise she just heard.
No honey, everything's ok.

Classic! Just Classic!

[dukalmighty]

I had a fairly new RIA 1911 45 drop out of an IWB holster,had my shirt get caught between gun and holster,as I was in my home bathroom and raised my shirt the gun came out and dropped straight down on the muzzle,I had remington 230 grn JHP loaded and it went boom,you could see the round barrel imprint from the powder flash on the concrete under the tile it blew away.I replaced the firing pin spring with a wolf X-strong spring as soon as I could get one ordered.

[Liberty]

California requires drop testing of handguns before they will certify them for legal sale. There should be a list of guns that have failed as well as those that have passed.

[hillcountry]

While I can't speak to it personally, I've read posts about and seen Ruger's notices about drop-fire issues with their SR9 and LCP lines.

And personally I had a Ruger Blackhawk that would fire if you tapped the hammer with any force at all over a loaded chamber. To give Ruger full credit though, they offer a "free safety conversion" to make them "drop safe".

http://www.ruger.com/safety/announcements.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hope this helps.

[Mastodon]

... and other pistols with firing pin blocks are all probably about this good.

Firing Pin Blocks = good