High end 1911 debate...
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I vote for Ed Brown's Kobra Carry and Wilson's Protector.
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I was hoping could give an opinion without getting flamed too bad....
I would suggest if money is an object that you get a GI model and put your own stuff in it. I've found it's cheaper and you have a little more personal input into what components your weapon has. But don't get me wrong, you're not going to be dissapointed with a GI model, even though you can improve on it. A stock GI model will still go bang 100% percent of the time you squeeze the trigger and is accurate for the class it's in.
I would suggest if money is an object that you get a GI model and put your own stuff in it. I've found it's cheaper and you have a little more personal input into what components your weapon has. But don't get me wrong, you're not going to be dissapointed with a GI model, even though you can improve on it. A stock GI model will still go bang 100% percent of the time you squeeze the trigger and is accurate for the class it's in.
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I have a Norinco 1911, with a 30 round mag . I would love to have a top of the line 1911 but my money goes elsewhere. I have followed a few of the threads from the 1911 forum and it seems that like with anything you get a lemon every once in awhile but most seem to run very well. I love the look and feel of 1911's and in a custom Tucker holster I would have to move to a open carry state just to show it off. I am thinking about sending my Norinco to a gunsmith for custom work, can anyone recomend a Houston gunsmith 1911 pro
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Disclaimer: I have not yet had any dealings with him, but Ed Vanden Berg has been highly recommended to me.Bill wrote:I am thinking about sending my Norinco to a gunsmith for custom work, can anyone recomend a Houston gunsmith 1911 pro
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Paul Hubbard is in Conroe and built my 1911 for me. He is extremely good and very easy to deal with. PM me for his number. I would post it here but it's his cell and I don't want too many people barraging him!
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sorry about that. it's fixed now.Tha_Veteran wrote:I am checking the website at http://www.vandenbergcustom.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; you accidnetly made it a banndber
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I have a Mil-Spec that I have fitted with Ed Brown parts. I love the gun but want something a lil more…UofHdevildog wrote:I was hoping could give an opinion without getting flamed too bad....
I would suggest if money is an object that you get a GI model and put your own stuff in it. I've found it's cheaper and you have a little more personal input into what components your weapon has. But don't get me wrong, you're not going to be dissapointed with a GI model, even though you can improve on it. A stock GI model will still go bang 100% percent of the time you squeeze the trigger and is accurate for the class it's in.
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Take a look at STI, I recently ordered one for a customer (STI Trojan 5") and was amazed when it arrived. The slide felt like it was riding on ball bearings, soon as I can scrape up some $$$$ I am going to get one for myself, the research I did on them and the opinions of the owners was very impressive. They are also made here in Texas, which is an added plus.....
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there will be a STI master dealer at George R Brown Gun Show tomorrow. Look for Cypress Firearms.
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I have to enquire about the purpose behind deliberately spending $2000 or more on a firearm that fires the same ammunition as the handguns one already possesses, and has the same manual of arms as at least one of them.
Is this supposed to be a future heirloom, a safe queen, something super accurate, an inflation hedge . . . or just an addition to the collection?
What will this $2000 handgun accomplish that one's other handguns cannot accomplish?
Can one acquire the same functionality with his other handguns by way of a competent gunsmith, or changing a few additional components, or spending the time and/or money on additional practice ammunition, a training course, solo practice at the range, etc?
For me, I would have to have good answers to these questions before I spent all that money on a relatively illiquid investment.
IIRC, Kimberly Munley and Mark Todd used 9mm Berettas to stop the homicidal Major Hasan Nidal at Fort Hood. I would not be surprised if these were factory-spec, department-issued weapons that cost no more than ~$600 each.
My opinion---take it or leave it.
Is this supposed to be a future heirloom, a safe queen, something super accurate, an inflation hedge . . . or just an addition to the collection?
What will this $2000 handgun accomplish that one's other handguns cannot accomplish?
Can one acquire the same functionality with his other handguns by way of a competent gunsmith, or changing a few additional components, or spending the time and/or money on additional practice ammunition, a training course, solo practice at the range, etc?
For me, I would have to have good answers to these questions before I spent all that money on a relatively illiquid investment.
IIRC, Kimberly Munley and Mark Todd used 9mm Berettas to stop the homicidal Major Hasan Nidal at Fort Hood. I would not be surprised if these were factory-spec, department-issued weapons that cost no more than ~$600 each.
My opinion---take it or leave it.
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Not all decisions are rational or logical. For most gun enthusiasts the decision to purchase a high end 1911 is a simple two part question. Do I really want it? Can I afford it?yerasimos wrote:I have to enquire about the purpose behind deliberately spending $2000 or more on a firearm that fires the same ammunition as the handguns one already possesses, and has the same manual of arms as at least one of them.
For me, I don't consider buying [most] guns to be an investment. There are better ways to invest your money.yerasimos wrote:For me, I would have to have good answers to these questions before I spent all that money on a relatively illiquid investment.
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It is good that this has been articulated. If one is making an emotionally-driven purchase, one should be aware of it, without their thinking clouded by bogus or defective rationalizations.WildBill wrote:Not all decisions are rational or logical. For most gun enthusiasts the decision to purchase a high end 1911 is a simple two part question. Do I really want it? Can I afford it?yerasimos wrote:I have to enquire about the purpose behind deliberately spending $2000 or more on a firearm that fires the same ammunition as the handguns one already possesses, and has the same manual of arms as at least one of them.
WildBill wrote:For me, I don't consider buying [most] guns to be an investment. There are better ways to invest your money.yerasimos wrote:For me, I would have to have good answers to these questions before I spent all that money on a relatively illiquid investment.
I used the word "investment" to take into account the possible future need or desire to sell what one purchased earlier.
I generally agree with you in not considering guns to be investments. Over the past couple years and going forward, whatever guns I buy, I buy to keep, not to sell them later at low-ball prices. But over the past year or so, those who panic-purchased black rifles and high-capacity magazines at top-dollar prices, while their 401(k) accounts and/or home values were cratering, may have been thinking differently at the time. There exists a continuum, or gradient, between "investment" and "speculation", not a clear distinction.
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Shooting a Wilson or Bear compared to shooting a Kimber or Colt is rather like driving a nice Honda, Chevy, or even a BMW compared to a Ferrari. They both get you to where you are going but one just feels better and tighter on the corners!
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Alan - ANYTHING I write is MY OPINION only.
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