Video: Pregnant Houston woman kills burglar w/ 20 gauge

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ES4Me wrote:As a woman, I find it extremely ignorant and prejudicial for Quannell X to state he finds it hard to believe this woman pulled the trigger with a "big grown man" in the house. Who does he think he is?

What has made this man so biased and bigoted that he cannot believe a woman is capable of defending herself, her family and her property against common thieves and thugs? What if her "big grown man" were asleep, in the bathroom, or otherwise incapacitated? Should she just let the hoodlums steal her only car which carried her to work, her children to school, and otherwise enabled her to be a productive member of our society and wait to be defended by a "big grown man"??
Leftists, by definition, are paternalistic. They believe li'l ol' you can't possibly take care of yourself, so they must step in and take over on your behalf. Over your objections, if necessary.
Mr Quanell's words and actions speak only for him. No need to put a broad, generalized label on him and imply his words or actions define "Leftists."

Mr Q believes XYZ. Mr Q is quiet the Leftist. Therefore, all Leftists also believe XYZ. I don't know about that reasoning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanell_X" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (Wikipedia is not always gospel) Mr Q certainly has some interesting views about society.
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Ok, first, I read online that Malcolm X rid himself of his last name because "'X' symbolized the true African family name that he never could know. For me, my 'X' replaced the white slavemaster name of 'Little' which some blue-eyed devil named Little had imposed upon my paternal forebears."[55] (That is from Wikipedia with a quote from the book he wrote. I didn't read that book, I just copied the quote from Wiki.)

Second, I was just as offended to hear Quanell talking about how that woman could not have possibly protected herself because she had a big ol man in the house. That makes me sick, all he does is spew hatred and ignorance and I wish he would move to some other part of the country. I can't stand seeing him or hearing him on the news. Good riddance. I am glad that pregnant mother had the guts to get that gun and take care of business! She had that right!!! Now let's just hope that the robber's family doesn't sue..... :fire
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ES4Me wrote:As a woman, I find it extremely ignorant and prejudicial for Quannell X to state he finds it hard to believe this woman pulled the trigger with a "big grown man" in the house. Who does he think he is?

What has made this man so biased and bigoted that he cannot believe a woman is capable of defending herself, her family and her property against common thieves and thugs? What if her "big grown man" were asleep, in the bathroom, or otherwise incapacitated? Should she just let the hoodlums steal her only car which carried her to work, her children to school, and otherwise enabled her to be a productive member of our society and wait to be defended by a "big grown man"??

I demand Quannell X attend some gender reeducation and sensitivity training to help with his obvious disregard for capability of a well armed and determined woman.

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Despite my tongue in cheek comments above, I do find his comments offensive. Of course, I find just about everything that escapes his mouth offensive. Yet another case of folks without brains who like to hear themselves talk.....

Some of the rules for radicals:

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

There it is... Attack the opposition so that the eyes are off the criminal who was stealing the car and onto the victim and make the victim look like the criminal instead.
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The Radical Rules are dead on.
Rule 11 is the most common I see with personalized taunts, ie Obummer, etc.
Rule 5 pops up plenty. The ridiculous is hard to counter.
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Very intriguing post longhorn_92. What you posted makes perfect sense. What are rules 1-5? I'd like to learn more.

Gee this could be a thread unto itself.
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joe817 wrote:Very intriguing post longhorn_92. What you posted makes perfect sense. What are rules 1-5? I'd like to learn more.
Among other places on the web, they're here:

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the interest of brevity, I just posted the link, rather than quoting the whole mess.
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Thanks LarryH. :tiphat:
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You're welcome, Joe.

google is your friend.

I just typed "rules for radicals" in the search window. One of the options that popped up was "rules for radicals saul alinsky". I clicked on that one and went to the first link that came up. Voila!
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LarryH wrote:You're welcome, Joe.

google is your friend. I just typed "rules for radicals" in the search window. One of the options that popped up was "rules for radicals saul alinsky". I clicked on that one and went to the first link that came up. Voila!
Well I know that! (google is your friend) :???: I just didn't come up with the "rules for radicals" slant. Good job. :thumbs2:

In chess, it's said if you know your opponents strategy then they are at a disadvantage. There other analogies that offer the same meaning.
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This may sound like a dumb question, are the 'radicals' questioning the who and not the why? I mean, does it matter who shot the BG if he was breaking into a car at night and was shot and killed?

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ES4Me wrote:As a woman, I find it extremely ignorant and prejudicial for Quannell X to state he finds it hard to believe this woman pulled the trigger with a "big grown man" in the house. Who does he think he is?
More to the point, that ain't exactly a tiny delicate flower he's saying can't handle a 20ga. I'd like to hear him explain this video of a much smaller woman handling a 12ga just fine: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Even smaller: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Video: Pregnant Houston woman kills burglar w/ 20 gauge

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Okay, let me add my 2 cents..

Most important in this story--one more douche-bag taking the permanent dirt-knap!!! OOOOO-RAH!

Now what bothers me--why is this woman afraid to go home? What type of community is this that a woman LEGALLY defending her home, her kids, & her personal property, now has to fear her, and her families, safety?

Another question-why is it that the families of these thieving, low-life, useless pieces of excrement, never acknowledge the FACTS of the matter? This is to the parents of the dead dirt-bag--YOU FAILED AT BEING A RESPONSIBLE PARENT. YOU RAISED A PIECE OF TRASH, AND THEN SET THAT TRASH LOOSE ON SOCIETY SUCH THAT THE REST OF THE RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH YOUR SHORT-COMINGS AS A PARENT. WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE HOW WE DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEM WHEN YOU LEAVE IT TO US TO SORT IT OUT? HAD YOU DONE WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE-EITHER ABORTED THE CHILD AT INCEPTION, OR BROUGHT IT UP BETTER-YOU WOULD NOT BE GRIEVING THE LOSS OF YOUR DIRT-BAG.

If I were that woman, I would have my attorney sue the family of the dead dirt-bag for 24 hour personal security protection, and for benefits to seek "emotional counseling" as a result of having to deal with the pain & grief she is left with after solving the equation that the parents of said dead dirt-bag could not figure out.

Why don't more attorneys get involved with deals like this and go after the families of the dead aggressors? This would surely shut down the news stories wherein the parents are on tv saying "they done kilt my baby!" "we wants justice". Well, justice should be found in a courtroom when you are being sued by the very person that took your little douche-bag off the face of the planet, thereby sparing the justice system the head-ache of housing him/her for the next 5-10.

They preach tolerance in school & church. I see today where tolerance has gotten this country. I have no tolerance for thieves whatsoever, or for those who would cry foul at the death of a thief caught in the act.

There's a special place in hell for Qcry-Nell-Hex. Surely he'll see this kid that just got whacked there in the future.
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how could a woman shoot a man with a gun, if there was another man in the house?
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austinrealtor wrote:
Zee wrote:Not strange for Quannel to say at all, if you know Quannel. A black person is dead. A non-black person killed them. That's all Quannell needs to know to come after the non-black person.

Some snippets from his wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanell_X" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
In 1995, Quanell X was quoted in the New York Daily News as saying,

"I say to Jewish America: Get ready … knuckle up, put your boots on, because we're ready and the war is going down. … The real deal is this: Black youth do not want a relationship with the Jewish community or the mainstream white community or the foot shuffling, head-bowing, knee bobbing black community. … All you Jews can go straight to heck.
This is some highly selective editing, why did you leave out the related part of this story from the end of the very same Wiki page you cited? This type of selective editing is incitement rather than dissemination of information.

From Wikipedia article cited above:
Apologies

On January 28, 2008, after taking a tour of the Holocaust Museum Houston, Quanell said he became enlightened and apologized for his past statements on Jews.

"I seek the forgiveness of every survivor who has heard the words I've said. I did not say them in the proper manner to make the point I was trying to get across. I can see and understand how they might be utterly paranoid (of) a person such as myself."

He has been challenging those within the community who sympathize with Osama bin Laden.[24]

I do volunteer work at Holocaust Museum and I've spent time speaking and visiting with Quanell on some other projects, when you write "if you know Quanell" somehow I doubt you know him any better than you know G. Bush, B.H. Obama, Tiger Woods or Peter and Lois Griffin outside of what you know from media reports. I may not agree with every stand he takes, yet I also understand the need for people to address their constituencies, this is no different than our Governor Hairdo who does the very same thing. As a Black Muslim, Mr. X has some very interesting comments about the Eastern (Arab) Muslims that I found very gutsy, this man is not afraid to swim against the current. He's a much more complex individual than media sound bites indicate.

My objection here is how his comments about Jews were cited while neglecting to mention the latter part of the same story: his rehabilitation and courage to issue public apologies, regardless of what his primary constituency may think of his comments. Not many public figures can do that. Trust that I will be one of the first so speak out against and publicly challenge antisemites and my work has been well documented.
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After spending a good deal of time deciphering this video I think that
#1: this man knows a little bit about Mr X
#2: MR X is is not a very good person. Why is he even involved? Was this young, dead man a friend of his? or a croonie?

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