stevie_d_64 wrote:
I also called once about the posted sign downtown at the Houston Police Departments' HQ...I used to work across the street and would walk by there everyday at lunchtime...The sign was ok (compliant) per the wording, but the sign was done with "white" 1 inch or better, lettering on a CLEAR GLASS panel...It is very difficult to discern unless you come right up and lean down to look at it...
By that time, the officers pulling the P.R. and metal detector duty notice you looking at it and if you want to come in to do business, you get the 'nth degree of attention above all the other folks coming in at that time...
Glad I don't have to do anything there...
Later,
Steve
A couple of years ago, the TSRA asked for pictures of postings at govenment buildings. I took a picture, from the outside and got hauled in to chat with the supervisor.
It was interesting.
See you at the range
Tom Neal
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Tom (Retired May 2019) Neal
stevie_d_64 wrote:
I also called once about the posted sign downtown at the Houston Police Departments' HQ...I used to work across the street and would walk by there everyday at lunchtime...The sign was ok (compliant) per the wording, but the sign was done with "white" 1 inch or better, lettering on a CLEAR GLASS panel...It is very difficult to discern unless you come right up and lean down to look at it...
By that time, the officers pulling the P.R. and metal detector duty notice you looking at it and if you want to come in to do business, you get the 'nth degree of attention above all the other folks coming in at that time...
Glad I don't have to do anything there...
Later,
Steve
A couple of years ago, the TSRA asked for pictures of postings at govenment buildings. I took a picture, from the outside and got hauled in to chat with the supervisor.
It was interesting.
See you at the range
Tom Neal
That was you?!?!?
"Perseverance and Preparedness triumph over Procrastination and Paranoia every time.” -- Steve
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
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tomneal wrote:On Fridays I meet a lunch buddy. We eat then take a walk. Since I needed the photos, we near government buildings.
While I was taken inside to discuss it with the sargent,
He was interviewed by one of the officers.
Like I said,
It was "real" interesting.
See you at the range.
Tom
Oh, I believe you...
But "taken"???
I assume you were carrying??? But "requested/taken" inside to discuss your blatant disregard for...for...something...gimme a minute, I'll think of something... :?
"Perseverance and Preparedness triumph over Procrastination and Paranoia every time.” -- Steve
NRA - Life Member
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"
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tomneal wrote:On Fridays I meet a lunch buddy. We eat then take a walk. Since I needed the photos, we near government buildings.
While I was taken inside to discuss it with the sargent,
He was interviewed by one of the officers.
Like I said,
It was "real" interesting.
See you at the range.
Tom
There's something wrong with taking a picture of a public sign in a public area? I think I would have been taking pictures of the sergeant and the officers.
I did that many years ago when the police were escorting scabs through a picket line that I was on, and the police decided they needed to have a talk with me and almost literally dragged me away to have it. I kept on taking pictures, as did a couple of my compadres, and eventually they did acknowledge that I had every right to take pictures of public officials performing their duties. Then I found out that the union wouldn't have gone to bat for me, and that and other items (like the union contributing to an anti-gun candidate) encouraged me to quit the union.
It probably helped that I carried a card from a local newspaper indentifying me as a freelance photographer, not that I ever had many picture published, like two, and I didn't even take one of them.
These guys tend to hang out at progressive rallies and protests and such. I'm sure some of their footage shows up on Indymedia sites such as Houston. http://houston.indymedia.org/
I saw a good documentory about them in FreeSpeech TV, gave a history and some how to info. I don't agree with all of their politics but I think everyone can find some common ground. Take a look at their views on firearm from the website. http://www.copwatch.org/gunissues.html
This building USED TO have 30.06 compliant signs at every entrance. I had to go there this morning, so after parking, I put my Glock 36 in the console and locked it. As I entered the elevator area, I noticed that they have now upgraded to NON-COMPLIANT SIGNS. They now have 3/4" black lettering on glass, so I didn't even check to see if the wording was correct. Pretty funny..............
Was up at Grapevine Mills Mall yesterday to eat at the Rain Forest Cafe. The entrances near RFC are posted in for what I can tell the correct format. Large signs with Red lettering on a Green background. Both Spanish and English and the block letters were at least 1.5" high.
But the signs are on the side of the doors where you can't see it till you are w/in 20ft of it. :( but it IS posted for all I can tell
I was up there with friends so didn't really have an option. But yeah, there's nothing in there that I can't get somewhere else. well RFC is the only one in the Metroplex and I have friends that love the place. its only ok IMO
When I wrote to all of the stores in Grapevine Mills, the ones I could obtain addresses for anyway, many of them responded that their stores are not posted, and a couple even pointed out that their mall entrances were not posted either. I was given to understand that they had received multiple communications on the order of "The mall is posted so I am not doing business with you." which is essentially what I sent them, and that some had actually been savvy enough to look into the situation.
I still won't go there, but I found the responses interesting.
I also found the response from the Mills corporate office, that they were merely following the lead of "most other malls in the area" and they were doing it for the safety of their customers interesting, and their lack of response to my informal survey of area malls showing that the only posted one was Grapevine, most interesting of all.
I do wonder, if I entered one of the anchor stores that is not posted on the outside, would I still be legal.
Would I be legal if GM could show that I had knowledge of the main entrance posting (remember that they undoubtedly kept my letter in a file marked "potential terrorists") prior to my visit to the anchor store?
And would I be legal if I entered the mall from the anchor store, where there is also no posting at the mall entrance?
I had a lot of fun a few years ago, the day I found out they were posted, when a friend from out of town came for a visit and we stopped there on the way from the airport. My wife saw the sign and pointed it out to me, so I turned around and we left. Our friend was a little non-plussed so we explained that the sign said that GM didn't want our business and discriminated against law abiding citizens. After a little explanation she understood.
We went to Stonebriar instead, and had a great time in a non posted facility.
