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Does she work for a Christus hospital?anygunanywhere wrote:The hospital where my wife works posted every entrance, signs are exactly according to statute.
Yep. Christus St. John in Nassau Bay, Texas. Their attorneys did their homework. The signs are exact, word for word, one inch block letters. They are at each public entrance.KBCraig wrote:Does she work for a Christus hospital?anygunanywhere wrote:The hospital where my wife works posted every entrance, signs are exactly according to statute.
That's the only group I've seen ban concelaed carry.
Kevin
Right around September 1, 2003, as the clarification of the law went into effect, the Plano Independent School District posted all of the entrances to its parking lots with non-compliant 36.06 signs.anygunanywhere wrote:Some have maintained that even if the sign is not exactly 30.06 compliant, the owner's intent to prohibit is obvious, so concealed carry is prohibited.
I hate running into snooty ladies...jimlongley wrote:I wound up on the phone with a very snotty young lady who claimed to be a former prosecutor and who very forcefully told me that in all cases they considered just the attempt to post a 30.06 sign to be an indication of intention by the poster and that they would prosecute any violators. She suggested that if I didn't like it I could go ahead and be a test case.
When I pointed out that, by her logic, I could reasonably claim a good faith effort to obey the speed limit if I only went 49 in a 40 zone, she got real huffy and hung up on me.
My call also was about a Community Credit Union which has undersize and non-contrasting signs posted, but the answer remained the same.
I figured it was Christus. We have Christus St. Michael in Texarkana. It's a shame that it's the better of our two hospitals.anygunanywhere wrote:Yep. Christus St. John in Nassau Bay, Texas. Their attorneys did their homework. The signs are exact, word for word, one inch block letters. They are at each public entrance.KBCraig wrote: Does she work for a Christus hospital?
That's the only group I've seen ban concelaed carry.
They have a serious problem with the riff raff in their hospitals. The Webster, TX Police are in there all the time. It is a shame the employees can not protect themselves, because the "security" (and the term is used loosely) can not and will not. I guarantee that there are illegal weapons carried by BG's in their hospitals. Woe be unto the hospital if my wife is harmed. They will rue the day. No threat, a promise.
Sounds like the same one. Heck, I was just asking who I would file a complaint about non-compliant signs with, I didn't say I was going to ignore them or that I wanted them taken down, I just wanted them brought into compliance. She was aggressive about it from the get-go and I wish I had gotten her name.ElGato wrote:jimlongley, that has to be the same young Lady who taught our instructor class two years ago, she said in that class that the wording in 30.06 didn't have to be exact or word for word if the language and intent were there. She is the only person I have ever heard with that interpretation of 30.06, everyone else has said that it must be exact. She had different views on several issues than we had been taught in past years. Talking to a group of instructors after the class, most agreed that she was the only anti-gun and anti-CHL person that we had come in contact with in our classes in Austin. My personal opinion is that she dosen't see CHL's as the good guy's and is looking for the oportunity to prosecute.
stevie_d_64 wrote:
I also called once about the posted sign downtown at the Houston Police Departments' HQ...I used to work across the street and would walk by there everyday at lunchtime...The sign was ok (compliant) per the wording, but the sign was done with "white" 1 inch or better, lettering on a CLEAR GLASS panel...It is very difficult to discern unless you come right up and lean down to look at it...
By that time, the officers pulling the P.R. and metal detector duty notice you looking at it and if you want to come in to do business, you get the 'nth degree of attention above all the other folks coming in at that time...
Glad I don't have to do anything there...
Later,
Steve
In the case of Community Credit Union I think a good case arguing that the letters were not contrasting could be made. The sidewalk in front of the branch in question is bright white concrete, and the letters are white and on the inside of the glass down low. The doors face west, so the net effect, unless you are there in the morning when the entrance is in shadow, is that the anti-chl sign is pretty much obscured by glare, you could even say the sign is virtually invisible in bright sunshine.Braden wrote:On the whole "contrasting color" thing, I think that is the only part of 30.06 that is left open to interpretation. I would walk past a sign that had the wrong wording without a second thought....and I wouldn't hesitate to walk by a properly worded sign that was too small (I've seen them printed on 8-1/2 x 11" paper at a local car dealership). If it's the right size and has the right wording, but I don't consider the colors to be contrasting, I'm not taking my chances. "Contrasting colors" aren't defined by law so it's too much of a gray area for me to just walk by it.
I'm inspired...Braden wrote:jimlongley wrote:Should have seen them watching me when I got out my dial caliper and measured them.
