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casingpoint wrote:Far as I can tell, there is no enforcement of this law.
That's my impression as well.
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As far as I can tell, there is no active enforcement of this law on Corps of Engineers properties.

Now, if you are arrested for public intoxication or any other offense while carrying on their property, you will certainly also be charged with unlawful carrying.
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AEA wrote:As far as I can tell, there is no active enforcement of this law on Corps of Engineers properties.

Now, if you are arrested for public intoxication or any other offense while carrying on their property, you will certainly also be charged with unlawful carrying.
If you are publicly intoxicated you shouldn't be carrying anyway. But not the point.

I wounder if a cruiser with a cabin is considered a habitation, and therfore your right to have a loaded gun for protection in your home "as protected by the 2A based on the ruling in Heller" is applicable.
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Good question,.......

But if a Cruiser with cabin is OK, what about a Cuddy Cabin, what about a canoe with an ice chest, what about a tackle box in any of those?

The point I am trying to make here is how far do we go with this? It clearly states that firearms are not allowed. No exceptions mentioned.
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AEA wrote:Good question,.......

But if a Cruiser with cabin is OK, what about a Cuddy Cabin, what about a canoe with an ice chest, what about a tackle box in any of those?

The point I am trying to make here is how far do we go with this? It clearly states that firearms are not allowed. No exceptions mentioned.
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The point I am trying to make here is how far do we go with this? It clearly states that firearms are not allowed. No exceptions mentioned.
The Supreme Court went as far as to say any regulation that amounts to a complete ban of handguns in the home is unconstitutional. I think it is fair to say that will translate to most situations outside the home where a ban does not server a narrow and significant public interest. Frankly, can't see where a ban on Corps property meets that standard of review.

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casingpoint wrote:
The point I am trying to make here is how far do we go with this? It clearly states that firearms are not allowed. No exceptions mentioned.
The Supreme Court went as far as to say any regulation that amounts to a complete ban of handguns in the home is unconstitutional. I think it is fair to say that will translate to most situations outside the home where a ban does not server a narrow and significant public interest. Frankly, can't see where a ban on Corps property meets that standard of review.
Also, almost by definition of the property types involved, you are in a situation where it could be hours or even days before any type of emergency services are available. It seems having an effective means for self defense is, in my mind, required.
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Lake Conroe is owned by the Lower Colorado River authority and does not belong to the Corps of Engineers.
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Is there a list anywhere of Corps of Engineers Texas lakes where consensus seems to think CHL is banned by Federal law?

In my neck of the woods, I'm fairly sure the Highland Lakes system does not fall under this Federal authority - Lakes Buchanan, Inks, LBJ, Marble Falls, Travis, and Austin. But I think Lake Georgetown may fall under Feds as well as Canyon Lake near San Marcos. Does this sound about right to everyone?

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austinrealtor wrote:Is there a list anywhere of Corps of Engineers Texas lakes where consensus seems to think CHL is banned by Federal law?
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Lake Fork is under the Sabine River Authority jurisdiction. Before I went fishing there recently, I called the SRA first to ask what their policy is for CHL, and I think the question scared the women half to death. In a quivering voice, she said that she had no idea, and she was the manager of that field office near Fork. She recommended that I call and ask the game warden. She gave me a name and number, so I called. He asked if I was a current licensed CHL...I responded "yes", and he said "have fun fishing".

Regarding the statement posted earlier about the handgun ban on COE lakes never being enforced, I have been approached on Lake Lewisville (before I carried) by a game warden while fishing, asking to see my ID and fishing license. If he were to do that now, I would have to show my CHL license as well, at which point he might ask if I'm in possession of my handgun. I'm not gonna take that chance.
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pdubyoo wrote:Lake Fork is under the Sabine River Authority jurisdiction. Before I went fishing there recently, I called the SRA first to ask what their policy is for CHL, and I think the question scared the women half to death. In a quivering voice, she said that she had no idea, and she was the manager of that field office near Fork. She recommended that I call and ask the game warden. She gave me a name and number, so I called. He asked if I was a current licensed CHL...I responded "yes", and he said "have fun fishing".

Regarding the statement posted earlier about the handgun ban on COE lakes never being enforced, I have been approached on Lake Lewisville (before I carried) by a game warden while fishing, asking to see my ID and fishing license. If he were to do that now, I would have to show my CHL license as well, at which point he might ask if I'm in possession of my handgun. I'm not gonna take that chance.
Luckly after Sept 1 there is no longer a penalty for not showing your CHL.
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Lake Conroe is owned by the Lower Colorado River authority and does not belong to the Corps of Engineers.
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