Requirement to Present CHL @ Time Of ID Request by Officer

[kd5zex]

Just curious but why would you have people in your car that you dont want to know? I cant remember ever having a rider I wanted it hidden from. If it is that big a deal they can take their own car. Also, if you have riders you want it kept secret from then wouldnt you drive more carefully, signaling and such? I know things happen but errors on your part can be minimalized.

Perhaps you are out to lunch with your office mates and your office is not a CHL friendly environment, or you are taking clients around showing properties or doing a site visit.

[03Lightningrocks]

Just curious but why would you have people in your car that you dont want to know? I cant remember ever having a rider I wanted it hidden from. If it is that big a deal they can take their own car. Also, if you have riders you want it kept secret from then wouldnt you drive more carefully, signaling and such? I know things happen but errors on your part can be minimalized.

I can think of a few. Business associates and my employees. I don't need either of these categories thinking about me having a weapon on me while we are in any of a number of business negotiations. I would just as soon my customers not know about it. They may or may not be on board with the idea of "packing a rod", but politics and business rarely mix well. I often have folks in my vehicle that are not "close to me" in a personal way.

Quite frankly...there are only three people I know of who have knowledge of my CHL. My daughter, my son and my future son-in-law. Nobody else has any need in knowing about it. Folks will act different around you if they know your carrying.

[Liberty]

Just curious but why would you have people in your car that you dont want to know? I cant remember ever having a rider I wanted it hidden from. If it is that big a deal they can take their own car. Also, if you have riders you want it kept secret from then wouldnt you drive more carefully, signaling and such? I know things happen but errors on your part can be minimalized.

Concealed is concealed. The only people who know I am packing on a specific morning is my wife and my my cat, they see me dress. It is no one elses business. While there are many folks that know I have a CHL, I get to choose who. Most assume I don't really carry at all, or very ofen.

Some people are socially responsible and a car pool.
Some folks jobs require them to have co workers with them, or customers, while they go places.
Some folks don't want leftist family members know they are packing.
Some folks drive carefully all the time. not just when they are packing. Not every stop happens when someone is driving carelessly.

[rm9792]

All good responses, that why i asked. I am not aware of all the different scenarios so this is enlightnening. I have a company car i take home and since I cant carry at work, cant carpool, and very rarely have any employees with me I dont come across these issues. Family wise they all know and all have their own guns but no chl's. Although I do know all about getting pulled over for no reason but to get checked out. Its amazing that in my 4wd dodge i have been stopped 3 times in over 8 years but at least 6-7 times a year in my mustang (no, not for speeding). Always get let go with some lame excuse once they see an old guy behind the tint. I have actually had Pearland and HPD walk up and walk away without saying so much as "howdy".

[Fangs]

I have actually had Pearland and HPD walk up and walk away without saying so much as "howdy".

Now that's funny.

[Bob Landry]

As far as the Austin traffic stop mentioned earlier. A certified letter would be OK, but personally, I would play the undue harrassment card with an attorney. That might go a little farther in convincing Acevedo to get rid of some of his punk/thug cops walking around with attitudes..

[gregthehand]

As far as the Austin traffic stop mentioned earlier. A certified letter would be OK, but personally, I would play the undue harrassment card with an attorney. That might go a little farther in convincing Acevedo to get rid of some of his punk/thug cops walking around with attitudes..

A lawyer!?

I hardly think he has a tort or criminal matter on his hands. For sure not a rights case either!

[dac1842]

Well this is what gives LEO a black eye. One when I was an LEO there was no way in hell I was giving a firefighter, paramedic,doctor, or nurse a ticket. I always imagined me giving one a ticket then looking up one day after an accident or a shooting and seeing that person as the one working on me, and praying they had a short memory. Having said that, you did as the law requires. But allow me to give a piece of advice, it doesnt matter if you are carrying or not present the license and chl and state, I am or or I am not carrying. It puts it all out in the open right and you avoid this kind of stuff.
The officer was wrong, and I am a strong supporter of law enforcement and I back their right to disarm, however the law is the law. And it is specific on when you have to present your chl and the fact you did not present when you were not carrying should not have caused this commotion.

I always present both and state if I am carrying or not. I actualy get challenged more while I am working due to the nature of my job. Unfortuneatley my employer does not allow weapons on duty or any where on the property.

[llama]

I have great respect for LEOs and for what they represent. I guess it's something I learned while in Marine Bootcamp. I see LEO 's as Officers of the law, and every time I have been pulled over, I have had the habit of turning the courtesy light on and not make any sudden moves, hoping it's for benefit of both. I wait patiently and respond to their reason for stopping me as politely as possible and in return all the LEOs have responded with the same respect and courtesy. They seem to appreciate my manners and not feel threatened. At the end, they just give me a verbal warning and at most a warning ticket. Before bootcamp, my manners were opposite, and the more I argued my pulling over,(regardless) the less polite LEOs treated me,and never left without a $$ ticket. Let's give LEOs the respect they deserve. It's a very dangerous job, so let's make it easier for them by presenting both Drivers license and CHL and tell if we're carrying or not, just out of courtesy. I haven't been pulled over after getting my CHL, but I will do the same, as for LEOs reaction to my CHL, is yet to be seen.Bye.

[tarkus]

If this law doesn't pass I think the answer is to let your CHL expire and carry under the Motorist Protection Act with no background check, no fingerprints, no training requirement and no duty to notify.

[LarryH]

If this law doesn't pass I think the answer is to let your CHL expire and carry under the Motorist Protection Act with no background check, no fingerprints, no training requirement and no duty to notify.

and leave the gun in the car when you get where you're going?

Not a good trade in my book.

[flintknapper]

If this law doesn't pass I think the answer is to let your CHL expire and carry under the Motorist Protection Act with no background check, no fingerprints, no training requirement and no duty to notify.

If this one doesn't pass then there isn't a prayer for any of the rest. This bill is the most innocuous of all filed to date.