When the place is closed and the janitor is the only person there, then it seems the janitor is in charge of the premises, and might be able, and wise, to carry.
I'm sad that the OP only has two posts - seems like learning about weapons and complying with laws and rules might have been too much trouble. Buying a gun to schlep around with you, in hopes that it's mere presence will ward off evil, is silly - but people with no exposure to guns sometimes think that way.
Hopefully the OP is actually engaged in reading, and going to gun stores / shows and handling weapons, on the road to making a sound, informed choice. If so, I'd like to see an update sometime.
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seamusTX, thanks for clearing that up. I was unaware of that.
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I asked one question and I wanted to get the answer before I posted more.BobCat wrote:I'm sad that the OP only has two posts - seems like learning about weapons and complying with laws and rules might have been too much trouble.
Even at gun stores I never got a real answer to my question about the Rossies but I didn't like the other one I tried also. I think that's the reason they're cheaper. You get what you pay for. I liked the Smith & Wesson so I went to the range and shot one and that tot made up my mind. I didn't want to wait a long time in my situation so I borrowed money from my friend and bought the Smith & Wesson. I went back to the range with my gun and I really like it. I think it's the one! lol. I carry my gun every night I work. I still carry teh mace also but I feel safer with the gun. I'm reading the cornered cat website and slowly paying my friend back. I haven't had to pull it yet but feeling safer is tot worth owing her money.BobCat wrote:Hopefully the OP is actually engaged in reading, and going to gun stores / shows and handling weapons, on the road to making a sound, informed choice. If so, I'd like to see an update sometime.
I hope that's a good update.
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It is a superb update. Glad to hear your news. I, for one, think you did the right thing and made the right choice.
I was not criticizing, just expressing my concern that you received "too much information" - not all of it exactly answering your question - and you might have decided it was all just too much to bother with.
You are exactly right, "you get what you pay for" if you are lucky. The Smith & Wesson is a better weapon, in my opinion, and if *you* like it, that is what really counts. The more you shoot it the more proficient you will become, and the more confident.
The mace or pepper spray is a good idea; if you do not *have* to shoot anybody, you are much better off not shooting anybody. If spray works, great. But if (and only you, on the scene at the time, can judge this) it is necessary to shoot to save yourself from injury or death - your Smith will serve you well.
Cornered cat is great, Kathy knows quite a bit and explains things clearly.
Legal issues... it is none of my business whether or not you have, or are getting, a concealed carry license. You are aware, from Jim's post and followup, that carrying in an establishment that derives more than 51% of its revenue (whatever the right word is here) from the on-premise sale of alcohol is against the law, unless the place is "under your control" - long discussion, not the point right now. You should also be aware that you do not need a CHL to carry in a place, like your home or business, that you control; and further that you may legally transport your sidearm between two such places.
People on this Forum are aware of the laws and, by and large, do their best to obey them. We get wrapped around the axle trying to "do right" but there is an old saying about it being better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Hang in there, shoot your Smith and enjoy it, and check back in with us - let us know how you are doing.
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I was not criticizing, just expressing my concern that you received "too much information" - not all of it exactly answering your question - and you might have decided it was all just too much to bother with.
You are exactly right, "you get what you pay for" if you are lucky. The Smith & Wesson is a better weapon, in my opinion, and if *you* like it, that is what really counts. The more you shoot it the more proficient you will become, and the more confident.
The mace or pepper spray is a good idea; if you do not *have* to shoot anybody, you are much better off not shooting anybody. If spray works, great. But if (and only you, on the scene at the time, can judge this) it is necessary to shoot to save yourself from injury or death - your Smith will serve you well.
Cornered cat is great, Kathy knows quite a bit and explains things clearly.
Legal issues... it is none of my business whether or not you have, or are getting, a concealed carry license. You are aware, from Jim's post and followup, that carrying in an establishment that derives more than 51% of its revenue (whatever the right word is here) from the on-premise sale of alcohol is against the law, unless the place is "under your control" - long discussion, not the point right now. You should also be aware that you do not need a CHL to carry in a place, like your home or business, that you control; and further that you may legally transport your sidearm between two such places.
People on this Forum are aware of the laws and, by and large, do their best to obey them. We get wrapped around the axle trying to "do right" but there is an old saying about it being better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Hang in there, shoot your Smith and enjoy it, and check back in with us - let us know how you are doing.
Regards,
Andrew
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I carry everyday, and plan on carrying everday for the rest of my life. And I hope and pray that I NEVER have to pull the trigger. Be aware of your surroundings, be safe, and take precautions, and hopefully you will NEVER have to use your weapon on somebody else. Just at the range where it's fun!megs wrote:I haven't had to pull it yet but feeling safer is tot worth owing her money.
I worked in the bar business for about 12 years, so I know how you feel. Always if you can, walk out with somebody. If that's not possible, always be on the phone with somebody while you walk out. If you feel you are in a dangerous area, there must be police around the area (if not working at your bar off duty). Get to know them. Get there cell number, and ask them to swing by around 'closing time'. I always had my beat officers cell numbers, just in case (just had to give 'em a few pizzas to get the number, haha). There are MANY options to stay safe other than "just get a gun".
BTW I carry the M&P 40c and it's great!
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bubba1876 wrote:There are MANY options to stay safe other than "just get a gun".
There are many options to stay safe IN ADDITION to "get a gun."