Spitting Kimber

[CompVest]

My Kimber was great out of the box. It just that people are more apt to complain then praise!

[RECIT]

That is understandable. Your right...I work in a service industry and customers will ALWAYS tell you how bad a job you did, but rarely pat you on the back. I'll praise my Beretta almost 2000 rounds down tube and no malfunction of any kind...using whatever ammo I feel like buying none the less. I still want a 1911, just not a Kimber.

[sar]

My Kimber was great out of the box. It just that people are more apt to complain then praise!

This is just plain nonsense. The default behavior of a 1000 dollar gun is that it work correctly. A properly functioning, premium handgun purchased at that price should be an expected unremarkable event.

The reason you see so many complaints about Kimber is that there are so many poorly functioning Kimbers out there. Period.
I have had 3, I still own one. The first, an eclipse pro, scarred my forehead. I sent it back to the factory and it returned not only scarring my forehead, but also with multiple FTFs. The second kimber, an ultra raptor, was unreliable with hollowpoint ammo. After multiple trips back to Kimber (and them "fixing" it by showing they could make it feed FMJs!) it finally would accept federals and hornadies if I recall, but no other HPs... Moreover, the kimber service folks were rude. My grand raptor functions flawlessly.

I have other friends who've purchased Kimbers recently (last few years) and have had issues. My impression is that kimber is a once excellent company who's suffering recent quality control issues.

To say that Kimber is just the butt of some hatred for no good reason and that people complain for no good reason is ridiculous. Kimber is the subject of countless critical threads simply because they cannot reliably produce a 1000 dollar gun that can be trusted to fire every time you pull the trigger.

[anygunanywhere]

Tell us how you really feel. Stop holding back.

Anygunanywhere

[sar]

LOL!

[Stupid]

This is just plain nonsense. The default behavior of a 1000 dollar gun is that it work correctly. A properly functioning, premium handgun purchased at that price should be an expected unremarkable event.

The reason you see so many complaints about Kimber is that there are so many poorly functioning Kimbers out there. Period.
I have had 3, I still own one. The first, an eclipse pro, scarred my forehead. I sent it back to the factory and it returned not only scarring my forehead, but also with multiple FTFs. The second kimber, an ultra raptor, was unreliable with hollowpoint ammo. After multiple trips back to Kimber (and them "fixing" it by showing they could make it feed FMJs!) it finally would accept federals and hornadies if I recall, but no other HPs... Moreover, the kimber service folks were rude. My grand raptor functions flawlessly.

I have other friends who've purchased Kimbers recently (last few years) and have had issues. My impression is that kimber is a once excellent company who's suffering recent quality control issues.

To say that Kimber is just the butt of some hatred for no good reason and that people complain for no good reason is ridiculous. Kimber is the subject of countless critical threads simply because they cannot reliably produce a 1000 dollar gun that can be trusted to fire every time you pull the trigger.

Hear hear.

My kimber Ultra CDP II went back to factory twice and still doesn't work 100%. For a $1000 gun, it's crap, to say the least. It used to spit back brass on every shot on top of jamming (FTF, mostly) on every 10 shot. The first time, it hit my head so hard and I started to bleed profusely. After that, I started to fire a shot and dodge the brass. Triple the fun at range (malfuncation practice, dodging brass and wondering if next round would fire or not)!

After the two trips, it seems to work OK, but still has occasional FTF and failure to chamber a round, meaning the slide returns but there's no round inside the chamber even though the mag is full. I have put more than 1000 rounds of FMJ through it but haven't really shot enough Hollow Point.

Has anybody heard that Glock needs to go back to factory to have some adjustment done?

It's the shame that it's a beautiful design, but, for $1000? Not worth it. So many guns have far better quality.

[Liberty]

The bottom line to me...why would a person spend so much coin on a weapon that needs adjustment or modification outta the box when there are sooooo many other weapons that function fine without incident? I do not own a 1911, but I have the bug. All this talk about $1000.00 weapons that need work before they are even broken has got me a little hesitant to plunk my money down. Even if it is minor things like another magazine or a main spring. Those are all thing that you paid an extremely high price tag for and apparently they are not up to par. That is just un-nerving to me. Especially when some one is considering it for a carry weapon. I want one bad, but I wouldn't spend ten dollars on something if it can not perform its job outta the box. Its just an opinion, but its mine.

If you ever figure it out please try to explain it to me. I think it might have aomething to do with sneakers. Some folks just have to have a $250 pair of sneakers, and others find that their $60 are just perfect for them. Its about brand name, fashion, and being "in" vs having something that does the job.

I have never had a pair of sneakers that cost ove $50.00 but if they ever decide to make them with flubber in them, I would be tempted.

[Liberty]

My Kimber was great out of the box. It just that people are more apt to complain then praise!

Funny thing about Kimbers is that people write and tell about how they had to break it in, and brag about how they only get 1 ftf per 200 rounds. and how happy they are that it performs most of the time now that they bought some expensive 3rd party mags. Folks who own other high quality guns can't understand why anyone would want to need to experiment with different ammo and mags to get their gun to operate reliably. They can't understand why folks would spend so much on a jamomatic that can't be trusted to be a primary carry weapon. A Kimber working perfectly right out of the box actually seems to be a rarity according the range reports I've seen on this forum.

Please understand thatI've never fired a Kimber, so maybe I'm missing something I don't understand. But I've noticed Kimber shooters at the range don't seem to shoot any better than other regular visitors to the range. The most accurate shooters always seem to be using some sort of 9mm or .40 cal.

[bdickens]

Have y'all noticed how a mid-priced gun that malfunctions is a piece of junk while a high-priced gun that malfunctions is "just getting broken in?"

I, too, am of the opinion that a $1000 (or more) gun should function flawlessly right out of the box. Heck, a $500 gun should function flawlessly right out of the box. Oh, wait.. it does! So far, I have had 0 -- that's right -- 0 malfunctions from my Glock 19, my 1st generation Taurus PT111 Millenium, or my Ruger P89DC.

[Stupid]

The Ultra CDP II is a good carry gun, well if it doesn't malfunction.

I have problem conceal my G19 and I have problem with G19 lacking a manual safety.

[killerfly128]

http://db.gunsprings.com/gunsprings/car ... berNF.html


Just buy that. I installed them on both of my kimber pro pistols. They would fail to go into full battery before the springs. but after it worked fine.

[anygunanywhere]

All of you'se guys with them horrible Kimbers can just box them up and send them freight collect to moi. Just let me know and I will supply my FFLer so that it is all legal like. I will even drive across Texas to do a FTF to take them turrible Kimber pistolas off yer hands.

Anygunanywhere

[Liberty]

All of you'se guys with them horrible Kimbers can just box them up and send them freight collect to moi. Just let me know and I will supply my FFLer so that it is all legal like. I will even drive across Texas to do a FTF to take them turrible Kimber pistolas off yer hands.

Anygunanywhere

Sorry, don't own one and never will. It is the folks who own them and love them have convinced me that they aren't worth trusting. sumpin about triggers I guess. I just pull the trigger on my old $300 Ruger, fire and lead come out the other end, and make holes where I was aimin' I cant understand what this trigger stuff is all about, and the whole 1911 mystique. I did fire a 1911 a couple times while in the Army. I was convinced that it was the worst piece of armament the Army had those who had been around longer than I had no respect for them either. Most would have preferred a S&W revolver. Some people just enjoy things that don't work well, because they enjoy fixin' them up I guess.

Maybe some day someone will explain why these things are worth so much money in words I can understand.

[DoubleJ]

All of you'se guys with them horrible Kimbers can just box them up and send them freight collect to moi. Just let me know and I will supply my FFLer so that it is all legal like. I will even drive across Texas to do a FTF to take them turrible Kimber pistolas off yer hands.

Anygunanywhere

Dang! you beat me to it!
I'm sur-us, too. Ah'll take any uh dem dar Kimb'rs off yer hans fer ya.

betcha I could get'em to work....

[sar]

Those of you who want the kimbers that don't work are missing the point. I'm sure I could either hire a gunsmith and get them to work (maybe, kimber wasn't able to in 3 trips...)

1000 dollar guns should work fine. period.

A functioning kimber, like my grand raptor, is a fantastic gun...I'll agree there. I'm not a recreational pistol shooter though...Muzzleloaders, longbows and recurves are my recreational devices and some quirkiness is acceptable with any of these. My handgun, however, needs to work reliably, as it's a tool.