Girlfriend

[Liko81]

My g/f and I had the same disagreements, she thought that I was just a trigger happy redneck looking for a fight.

My GF has a different attitude; she just doesn't like guns and thinks nobody should have them. When she says "nobody", she is also referring to police, who she regards as power-trippers (she is an oil engineer's brat and therefore very well-traveled, and has lived in countries like Australia where the police are the only ones with guns, and they know it). However, she is an intelligent girl, and can logically conclude that because police have guns, and because bad guys have guns, good guys must have guns to protect themselves against bad guys, and against police tyranny. She still would rather have someone else carry the gun, so I don't think she'll have a problem with me CCing, but I also don't think she'll be quick to get her own CHL.

She's still a keeper.

[Bando800]

LOL. It always cracks me up when I see a girlfriend/wife post. You guys are vicious when someone threatens the pack. There is another option to leaving her. Tell her it is your right and your going to do it no matter what. It is that important to you (and I hope it is). That's it. You don't have to change your life by leaving her because you disagree on something. You don't have to like each others decisions. Your with her because you love her. People argue from ignorance most of the time. Teach her as much about guns as you can. If she won't listen she's probably scared of them. I know and love plenty of anti-gun people. They are allowed to dislike guns just as much as I am allowed to covet them. That doesn't make them evil or even irrational. They just don't have enough information to make an informed decision. The more girlfriend/wife posts I read, the luckier I feel about my girlfriends view of guns. When we met she wouldn't go near my guns. She didn't understand how they worked. She had a "TV" perception of them. She could not understand why I would want to carry one. They kill people! Over time I taught her how to hold, shoot, and load a firearm. They are no longer scary to her. She understands that they are just objects. When we are in a bad neighborhood, sometimes she asks if I am packing. NOW it is a source of comfort to her.

[WildBill]

It always cracks me up when I see a girlfriend/wife post. You guys are vicious when someone threatens the pack.

Bando800 - Pretty good insight for a newbie! Welcome to the forum.

[agbullet2k1]

LOL. It always cracks me up when I see a girlfriend/wife post. You guys are vicious when someone threatens the pack. There is another option to leaving her. Tell her it is your right and your going to do it no matter what. It is that important to you (and I hope it is). That's it. You don't have to change your life by leaving her because you disagree on something. You don't have to like each others decisions. Your with her because you love her. People argue from ignorance most of the time. Teach her as much about guns as you can. If she won't listen she's probably scared of them. I know and love plenty of anti-gun people. They are allowed to dislike guns just as much as I am allowed to covet them. That doesn't make them evil or even irrational. They just don't have enough information to make an informed decision. The more girlfriend/wife posts I read, the luckier I feel about my girlfriends view of guns. When we met she wouldn't go near my guns. She didn't understand how they worked. She had a "TV" perception of them. She could not understand why I would want to carry one. They kill people! Over time I taught her how to hold, shoot, and load a firearm. They are no longer scary to her. She understands that they are just objects. When we are in a bad neighborhood, sometimes she asks if I am packing. NOW it is a source of comfort to her.

Bravo!! Couldn't say it any better. My wife and her family had the "TV perception" too. Been almost a year of marriage now and she goes to the range on her own and even cleans the guns just for fun. She even went to her first gun show this month. She even keeps talking about going duck hunting this year, which means I get a new shotgun (*happy dance*). Christmas should be fun this year...

[Armed-Texan]

"How do you know if we're ever in that situation and I'm armed, it's not HIS time to go and I was meant to stop him?"

i LoL'ed!!!! classic material right here!

my wife sees no purpose in me carrying and that i am just going to get into trouble. she was raised on a farm, hunted and what not, but sees no good in personal protection. i have argued the point but finally said i was going to carry regardless of what she said. so there. i have had my chl a mere three days and haven't had a chance to carry with her with me so we will see how it goes. i did carry it when i went to the grocery store, and i am glad i did, turns out the store she sent me to is not in the upscale part of town shall we say, and the customers as well as the cashiers looked, um, suspect. glad i had my .45

[austin]

Women and some men think that they can argue with evil. ( Until someone they know or them is hit by violent crime. )

When I run into someone like this, I just get up and leave the table or the room.

"I do not want to be around someone who is criminal-friendly. Too much of a risk." is what I say.

Simple as that.

[CompVest]

Hey Guys, there is an aspect to the whole women and gun issue you are not addressing. It is very hard for men to understand that some women just do not like guns. That it is hardwired into them.

God created women to be nurturers. Pistols were created by man to kill men. It is just too strongly hard wired in some women to overcome this gap. I don't think those that can have the personal protection mindset should put them down or expect them to change. It is who they are. However, I am very quick to tell them they should not expect me to give up my right to protect myself with a gun if I choose. It is who I am.

I generally get on or two women a year that try to overcome their aversion to guns. They just can't do it. I am quick to let them know I am very proud of them for trying and it is okay if they don't like shooting.

So my message is: love your ladies and try to get them to the personal protection mindset, but if they can't - love your ladies!

[aardwolf]

I carry a gun. That's not negotiable. Fortunately there are many smart and sexy women who are pro gun and even better there seems to be a strong correlation between smart and competent and pro-gun.

Hey Guys, there is an aspect to the whole women and gun issue you are not addressing. It is very hard for men to understand that some women just do not like guns. That it is hardwired into them.

That's fine. Those women can date men who are hardwired the same way.

[Bullitt]

If she's good looking, let her hang around

However. Don't let her move into your place, and don't move into her place. Don't marry her. Meanwhile look around

[CompVest]

Let's not go any farther tin the direction this is heading. Thank you.

[dukesean]

Hey Guys, there is an aspect to the whole women and gun issue you are not addressing. It is very hard for men to understand that some women just do not like guns. That it is hardwired into them.

God created women to be nurturers. Pistols were created by man to kill men. It is just too strongly hard wired in some women to overcome this gap. I don't think those that can have the personal protection mindset should put them down or expect them to change.

So, since we are now into 2008, and many men have become the nuturers (despite "hardwiring") in the family, does that mean that women who cannot overcome this gap are not being "progressive" enough? It's actually interesting to see that some feminists are vehemently pro-gun, as it serves as an equalizer.

Maybe that's an argument to take to your significant other and say, "Honey, I don't think you are being progressive enough. Women's rights have come a long way, and why can't you just accept the fact that I can't protect you all the time?"

Just food for thought

[longtooth]

If she's good looking and the sex is good, let her hang around

However. Don't let her move into your place, and don't move into her place. Don't marry her. Meanwhile look around

Let's not go any farther tin the direction this is heading. Thank you.

The men moderators completely agree too. Back on topic immediately please.

[TDDude]

So I got in a fight with my girlfriend this weekend about carrying. She can't believe that, when I told her I was getting my CHL and told her I'd be carrying a gun, I meant that I'd really be carrying a gun.

She even went so far as to say she'd rather a BG kill her or me than have me kill someone in defense of her or my life. I brought up the shootings at VA Tech and the church in Colorado and mentioned that someone with a CHL at VA Tech (if it were legal to carry on campus) could have stopped the killer and saved many lives, much as the woman in Colorado did. She actually responded with "How do you know it wasn't their time to go and that's what was meant to happen?"

Arguments of mine that "How do you know if we're ever in that situation and I'm armed, it's not HIS time to go and I was meant to stop him?" fell on deaf ears.

Has anyone else ever had this "discussion" with your significant other?

That's why it's called "DATING".

She probably isn't the one for you. Move on. There are tons of good ole country girls out there.

My wife doesn't like to go shooting at all but she doesn't understand anti-gunners at all either and is a big time supporter of the 2nd. She is the first to remind me when my NRA membership dues are due.

Perhaps it's because she was raised in Mexico where all guns are basically illegal to all citizens and yet Mexico City is one of the most dangerous places on the planet. The danger comes from both BG and the police.

I thank God everyday that I was born and live in the great state of Texas.

[DParker]

My wife doesn't like guns at all, and wants no part of them. But it's a personal decision for her, and she's not an "anti" in the sense that she desires to impose that decision on others, including me. She's also not silly enough to prefer that herself or a loved one die rather than the life of an aggressor be taken. She doesn't give me a hard time for carrying a pistol and owning several long guns. She also does her best to understand (or at least tolerate) my love of hunting, as well as the fact that my son is following in my footsteps in these areas as well. She's just not comfortable with guns given that they are, ultimately, violently deadly weapons. It's simply not in her nature to like such things. No problem. I don't push my own interests on her. As long as the firearms remain mostly out of her sight (which they should anyway if they're properly secured at home) she's happy and we don't have an issue. Seems fair enough, since she doesn't demand that I enjoy decorating shows like she does. Seems like a win-win to me.

Personally, I married a woman because they're fundamentally different from men to begin with, so I can live with a some disparate points of view on a few things like this.

[rob02262008]

Wouldn't want her raising my children. There are enough XY chromosomed humanoids who have lost their man card for women like that in the world. Sounds like a good excuse to move on.

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