Game warden incident

mec · #31

"I'm just trying to make sure i am not barking up the wrong tree with this one. Spent several years away and had to deal with several sets of laws....."

There certainly are a lot of laws. More of them all the time. May have something to do with people finding less complicated leisure activities than hunting.

Lonegun1894 · #32

Mec,
I wish i could disagree. I like fishing as much as the next guy, but for some reason it just isnt nearly as satisfying as hunting. And i'm not about to take up golf as a replacement. well, I'd try it if it involved a golfball cannon, but it still wouldnt replace hunting.

gigag04 · #33

Lonegun1894 wrote:Mec,
I wish i could disagree. I like fishing as much as the next guy, but for some reason it just isnt nearly as satisfying as hunting. And i'm not about to take up golf as a replacement. well, I'd try it if it involved a golfball cannon, but it still wouldnt replace hunting.

You're just a gun nut.

Lonegun1894 · #34

If you saw my place, you'd realize just how correct you are. And by the way, you say that as if it was a bad thing....

gigag04 · #35

Lonegun1894 wrote:If you saw my place, you'd realize just how correct you are. And by the way, you say that as if it was a bad thing....

It is...we should get rid of them...you know...for the kids and all.

*yawn* I think I'll go for a swim in my unfenced pool in a residential area.

-nick

rodnocker1 · #36

Lonegun, I like the Idea of the golfball cannon.

My In-Laws live in Houston and my F-I-L is a golf nut. With the cannon, I could go with him for some "Quality/Bonding" time.

Yea, that would liven the game up!

dws1117 · #37

rodnocker1 wrote:Lonegun, I like the Idea of the golfball cannon. My In-Laws live in Houston and my F-I-L is a golf nut. With the cannon, I could go with him for some "Quality/Bonding" time. Yea, that would liven the game up!

I'd try it if it involved a golfball cannon

I happen to have a friend who once made a golf ball launcher.It was made to fit on the end of an AR-15. That's what happens when you have access to a machine shop, lots of spare time, and your're a gun nut.

Lonegun1894 · #38

DWS,
Any chance of some pics or some idea of how he made that launcher? I have a feeling my AR could use one. Then again, a few friends of mine and i made a m-203 scaled down to fire 12ga shells. We got a few days access to a machine shop on a boat and got busy. We were gonna bring it back til we realized it was severely frowned upon back over here. So it was passed on to another Marine over there and as far as i know is still in use. Who doesnt need a 12" barreled 12 gauge attached to an AR/M-16? Now if it had been longer, well, we might have had to make a few more, but we couldnt get much longer than that without the shotgun muzzle sticking out past the rifle muzzle. So if there's any way to get an idea of what and how it was done, i'd appreciate it. I'm just trying to stay out of jail while i'm at it too. You know, how that goes.

Lonegun1894 · #39

rodnocker1 wrote:Lonegun, I like the Idea of the golfball cannon. My In-Laws live in Houston and my F-I-L is a golf nut. With the cannon, I could go with him for some "Quality/Bonding" time. Yea, that would liven the game up!

well, if i ever hear a loud shot go off when driving past a golf place, i'll assume it's you and wave instead of returning fire. Do me a favor though. Dont hit a lifted tan chevy silverado with that ball. It's probably me driving it. On second thought, if it's a really ugly guy or a good looking small blonde driving, let it pass. If the driver fits any other description and it happens to be MY truck, shoot it as it is being stolen. And i dont care what you shoot it with in that case either, the bigger the better. Might as well get a laugh out of the incident, right?

rodnocker1 · #40

The golf cannon would be about the only way I would be on a golf course. Other than playing putt-putt golf many, many years ago, I have only been golfing once. The best part of golfing, from what I remember, is driving out the front gate to go home. That is another one of those sports that I never took to:
(1) Take the ball out of your pocket
(2) Put it on the ground
(3) Hit the ball with a club
(4) Hit it again
(5) Hit it again
(6) Hit it again, etc.
(7) Pick ball up, put in pocket, go to next tee, and repeat.

My theory is If you have to be there, then keep the ball in your pocket, ride in the cart, drink a soda, and watch the other nuts flog (that's golf spelled backwards and as it should be spelled) that little ball. No offense intended or directed to those who do like to chase the ball...my dog loves to!

gigag04 · #41

Lonegun1894 wrote:Then again, a few friends of mine and i made a m-203 scaled down to fire 12ga shells. We got a few days access to a machine shop on a boat and got busy. We were gonna bring it back til we realized it was severely frowned upon back over here. So it was passed on to another Marine over there and as far as i know is still in use.

My best friend from High School did a tour in Iraq - he's a combat engineer, and thus got asked to do some door kicking in fallujah, since the marines needed engineers. He "found" a double barrelled side by side shotgun, cut it to be about 15" total. He called it his "key to the city" and used it to open locked doors. He had one shot for the door, and one for whatever was on the other side, and then his squad behind him piling in quick. He said generally it was a good time...all things considered.

So...thats one use for a 12 ga on a M-4
.

-nick

Lonegun1894 · #42

We used the thing we made as a close range deterrent. It was short, and the pattern sucked for normal use, but for clearing buildings where most of the shots were across a room or down the hall, it was a god-send. Whoever's turn it was to go in first had that thing if they wanted it. Then we appropriated several shotguns and that thing became a backup for opening doors and for when the rifle ran dry and we needed one more shot, or just wanted to make people duck and stay behind cover the extra second or two it takes to slap another mag into the rifle. Anyways, i'll get myself into trouble if i go into details so i better shut up now. Anyways. I'd like to have another one, but it was a limited use weapon and i hope it's serving the Marines left over over there as well as it did for us. Best of luck to your friend and anyone with him, as well as all our people over there. We had a lot of fun, as strange as it sounds, but several of us shouldnt have made it with the way we did things. Then again, we didnt follow the rules one bit because it upped our chances to come home. Worked well, but we were asking for forgiveness A LOT, which is still easier to get afterwards than permission ahead of time.

lrb111 · #43

Lonegun1894 wrote:We used the thing we made as a close range deterrent. It was short, and the pattern sucked for normal use, but for clearing buildings where most of the shots were across a room or down the hall, it was a god-send.

I've often thought that a "foot long" was the perfect HD tool.
I still don't know how Derringer can make a tiny .410 pistol, but we can't have a short 12 guage.

gigag04 · #44

lrb111 wrote:
Lonegun1894 wrote:We used the thing we made as a close range deterrent. It was short, and the pattern sucked for normal use, but for clearing buildings where most of the shots were across a room or down the hall, it was a god-send.
I've often thought that a "foot long" was the perfect HD tool.
I still don't know how Derringer can make a tiny .410 pistol, but we can't have a short 12 guage.

It's registered as a short-barrelled rifle. I think there is a process you can go through to legally make one..but I'm not sure. Involves registering with the BATF and stuff...maybe even a class III.

-nick

Lonegun1894 · #45

As far as the derringer goes, it is classified as a handgun. It has to be rifled, and i believe there is a caliber restriction. If you ever take a look at one, look down the bore and you will see rifling. I have a little side by side .410 made by Cobray. The thing barely has any rifling, and i think it is all of about half an inch long, but it fulfills a legal requirement. As far as the toy we made and the one your friend has, it is a "short bareled shotgun" and can be bought or made, as long as you're willing to file the proper papers and wait for the ok from the ATF. We never bothered asking anyones permission cause we didnt have to follow those laws over there. If i was gonna do it over here, i definitely would as i dont wanna be guest of honor at Club Fed. Last time i looked into it, it was a $200 manufacturing ;icense/permit if you wanted to make one yourself, or a $5 transfer tax if you buy it ready made. Been thinking about buying one, but havent made the leap yet and more than likely wont til after i get done with school. Figure that gives me plenty of time to decide if it's really even worth bothering with.