Good guy-1, bad guy-.....still running?

[arod757]

[quote="Briankey"]Whhooaaa, glade I won't have to tell you to go buy a Map, or GPS. But, as long as you don't wear your pants pulled way down your thighs showing your underwear, looking like a wannabe gangsta' you might be alright. Ha Ha.

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Got the gps, and it's hard to conceal a Glock with my pants down below my butt.

[Briankey]

Aggie_engr:

There is NOTHING you said that is Racist, There is NOTHING I have said as Racist, Anyway, I could Care less what People think or say about me, I will never be Politically Correct.
But what I've said is the truth, I have had more problems with Blacks and Mexicans than whites, some, the same situation as you described, I bought my dream Vehicle about 2 years ago, a Jeep Wrangler, you know they aren't cheap, was at the car wash, with a friend of mine, believe it or not, he was black, he sat there joking with me because I washed and waxed the jeep twice, I had a homeless guy come by, asked for money, he was white, told him I just dropped my last bit of change in this machine, he walks off.
Black dude, wearing his pants down off his tail end comes up on a bicycle, he asked for money, told him I didn't have none, he started cussing Leroy in the jeep, asking why he was hanging with a white guy, the BG spits on the passenger side window where Leroy was setting, then picks up some mud and threw it on my hood and rides off.
Everybody knows that crime is bad, and with the current situation with Immigration, I feel its going to get worse, so I'm always alert, and know my surroundings when I'm out somewhere, when someone walks towards me, yes, Black or Mexican
My alert Level rises and I rest my hand on my belt near my Glock, most people would do the same thing. Criminals want to Victimize those who aren't alert, take the unaware by suprise. That's why most people become victims, they don't think it could happen to them at anywhere, anytime.

I usually ask what they want before they get too close, 99% of the time, its Money. I can't recall the Last time someone asked for Directions.

Brian

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I hate to sound racist but Briankey I'm with you on this one. Some one walking around with they're pants down to their knees definately catches my attention as well. I was in a situation (before I got my license and my gun) where I was washing my truck at a car wash place and a somewhat elderly black man (late 50's) asked if he could dry it for a couple bucks, said he was hungry. He seemed harmless so I said sure, as long as we have a deal that you will walk right across the street to that restraunt and get some food. He dries it somewhat okay, no big deal, I hand him his share and I fiddled around and watched him go right where he said he would. Cool right? I felt good. But then this younger black male (25 or so) walks up and just asks for some money. I said no I don't have any more I just gave it to that guy walking across the street. He persists and starts rambling "you sure man", "come on, jus' give me some change, you ain't got no change" and quickly approaches me as I begin to get in my truck. My window was down and as I watched him he was looking in, looking at me, looking inside my door (which is where my wallet usually stays) and gets slightly aggravated. I thought I was going to have to knock him over the head to get him to leave. Since then I haven't given any money out to any one.

[Briankey]

Yeah, the GPS post was supposed to be a sarcastic joke, but you might try concealing the glock in the boxers.
In Louisiana about a year ago, I saw a self proclaimed gangsta' pull an Uzi out of a pair of Boxers.
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Got the gps, and it's hard to conceal a Glock with my pants down below my butt. [/quote]

[KBCraig]

The majority (large majority) of Dallas Police Officers are fed up with the crime we have and are constantly telling each other that we wish more people would get a gun so as to protect themselves from criminals. Every time some thug is shot by a citizen who they're trying to victimize is a win as far as we're concerned. That's why the CHL and Castle Doctrine laws were written in the first place.

Everyone that steps foot in Dallas should be prepared to defend themselves and not rely on us to do so. 3,200 cops can't be everywhere and watch over 1.2 million people. Once 911 is called we become report takers and fugitive hunters. The odds of us arriving to a location while a crime is still in progress is somewhere between slim and none. And as the old saying goes, "Slim already left town" so in this case you're pretty well on your own.

This wisdom from a Dallas cop bears repeating.

[brainneeded]

as bad as it sounds, brian and aggie_engr pretty much hit it on the head. although not in the most politically correct of terms, it is a lot easier to find minorities, specifically blacks and hispanics, who have resorted to violence and crime. and this is coming from someone who is not white.

Aggie_engr:

There is NOTHING you said that is Racist, There is NOTHING I have said as Racist, Anyway, I could Care less what People think or say about me, I will never be Politically Correct.
But what I've said is the truth, I have had more problems with Blacks and Mexicans than whites, some, the same situation as you described, I bought my dream Vehicle about 2 years ago, a Jeep Wrangler, you know they aren't cheap, was at the car wash, with a friend of mine, believe it or not, he was black, he sat there joking with me because I washed and waxed the jeep twice, I had a homeless guy come by, asked for money, he was white, told him I just dropped my last bit of change in this machine, he walks off.
Black dude, wearing his pants down off his tail end comes up on a bicycle, he asked for money, told him I didn't have none, he started cussing Leroy in the jeep, asking why he was hanging with a white guy, the BG spits on the passenger side window where Leroy was setting, then picks up some mud and threw it on my hood and rides off.
Everybody knows that crime is bad, and with the current situation with Immigration, I feel its going to get worse, so I'm always alert, and know my surroundings when I'm out somewhere, when someone walks towards me, yes, Black or Mexican
My alert Level rises and I rest my hand on my belt near my Glock, most people would do the same thing. Criminals want to Victimize those who aren't alert, take the unaware by suprise. That's why most people become victims, they don't think it could happen to them at anywhere, anytime.

I usually ask what they want before they get too close, 99% of the time, its Money. I can't recall the Last time someone asked for Directions.

Brian

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I hate to sound racist but Briankey I'm with you on this one. Some one walking around with they're pants down to their knees definately catches my attention as well. I was in a situation (before I got my license and my gun) where I was washing my truck at a car wash place and a somewhat elderly black man (late 50's) asked if he could dry it for a couple bucks, said he was hungry. He seemed harmless so I said sure, as long as we have a deal that you will walk right across the street to that restraunt and get some food. He dries it somewhat okay, no big deal, I hand him his share and I fiddled around and watched him go right where he said he would. Cool right? I felt good. But then this younger black male (25 or so) walks up and just asks for some money. I said no I don't have any more I just gave it to that guy walking across the street. He persists and starts rambling "you sure man", "come on, jus' give me some change, you ain't got no change" and quickly approaches me as I begin to get in my truck. My window was down and as I watched him he was looking in, looking at me, looking inside my door (which is where my wallet usually stays) and gets slightly aggravated. I thought I was going to have to knock him over the head to get him to leave. Since then I haven't given any money out to any one.

[lawrnk]

I hate to sound racist but Briankey I'm with you on this one. Some one walking around with they're pants down to their knees definately catches my attention as well. I was in a situation (before I got my license and my gun) where I was washing my truck at a car wash place and a somewhat elderly black man (late 50's) asked if he could dry it for a couple bucks, said he was hungry. He seemed harmless so I said sure, as long as we have a deal that you will walk right across the street to that restraunt and get some food. He dries it somewhat okay, no big deal, I hand him his share and I fiddled around and watched him go right where he said he would. Cool right? I felt good. But then this younger black male (25 or so) walks up and just asks for some money. I said no I don't have any more I just gave it to that guy walking across the street. He persists and starts rambling "you sure man", "come on, jus' give me some change, you ain't got no change" and quickly approaches me as I begin to get in my truck. My window was down and as I watched him he was looking in, looking at me, looking inside my door (which is where my wallet usually stays) and gets slightly aggravated. I thought I was going to have to knock him over the head to get him to leave. Since then I haven't given any money out to any one.

I judge people equally. If you are dressed like a baggy idiot, and speak like a thug, I will treat you as such. If you finish every sentence with "you know what i'm sayin", then you are waste of good oxygen.

[Briankey]

"Yo sho right man, you knows what I's sayin"
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"you know what i'm sayin", then you are waste of good oxygen.[/quote]

[Keith B]

"Yo sho right man, you knows what I's sayin"
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"you know what i'm sayin", then you are waste of good oxygen.

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You forgot to say 'Dawg' at the end of it.

[Briankey]

Aaahhh Dang Dawg.
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You forgot to say 'Dawg' at the end of it. [/quote]

[KBCraig]

"Yo sho right man, you knows what I's sayin"
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"you know what i'm sayin", then you are waste of good oxygen.

Most likely uttered by a middle class white suburban mall rat with fake bling and his hat turned sideways.

I am offended by judgement of people based on their being "Mexicans" or "black guys", and I am one of the least PC people you'll ever meet. "Approach determines response", and it doesn't matter if the person is purple with yellow polka-dots.

If you categorize people by melanin instead of actions, then you're not only unfairly assuming criminality for some people, you're also unwisely giving others a pass despite their behavior, based solely on skin tone.

Kevin

[texasmr2]

Alot of time's I get the guy's that come into my workplace to purchase a firearm who initialy give off the 'thug' attitude especially if they are with member's of their 'crew'. Yet after I dislodge their attitude by letting them know very politely I'm the one 'in charge' and letting them know I'm not their enemy and talked their smack 20+yr's ago and homey dont play that they get the message.

That kind of situation happen's only about 5% out of 100% of my customer's but as long as they realize your not their enemy they drop their guard and act appropriately, especially when they realize the sale depend's upon my outlook/opinion and not their's.

[seamusTX]

You can find some interesting statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice here:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv ... cv0540.pdf

55 to 56% of violent crimes are committed by white people (90% male), as reported by the victim or witnesses. The only category where blacks are a majority of offenders is completed robbery with injury.

This page shows that victim and offender are more than twice as likely to be the same race as different races:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv ... cv0542.pdf

What this means in simple terms is that if you are white, and you watch only for threats from non-white people, you leave yourself open to being blind-sided by a white guy. (Which KBCraig already said).

- Jim

[Briankey]

You'll be Perfectly fine.

"Yo knows what I's Sayin' Dawg"

GOD BLESS AMERICA, Oooppppsss, hope that didn't offend anyone. God Bless America Anyway.....

[lawrnk]

You can find some interesting statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice here:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv ... cv0540.pdf

55 to 56% of violent crimes are committed by white people (90% male), as reported by the victim or witnesses. The only category where blacks are a majority of offenders is completed robbery with injury.

This page shows that victim and offender are more than twice as likely to be the same race as different races:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv ... cv0542.pdf

What this means in simple terms is that if you are white, and you watch only for threats from non-white people, you leave yourself open to being blind-sided by a white guy. (Which KBCraig already said).

- Jim

Since you brought it up.........



The Race War of Black Against White
by Paul Sheehan
from the Sydney Morning Herald, May 20, 1995


The longest war America has ever fought is the Dirty War, and it is not over. It has lasted 30 years so far and claimed more than 25 million victims. It has cost almost as many lives as the Vietnam War. It determined the result of last year's congressional election.
Yet the American news media do not want to talk about the Dirty War, which remains between the lines and unreported. In fact, to even suggest that the war exists is to be discredited. So let's start suggesting, immediately.
No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.
And the problem is getting worse, not better. In the past 20 years, violent crime has increased more than four times faster than the population. Young blacks (under 18) are more violent than previous generations and are 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.
Nearly all the following figures, which speak for themselves, have not been reported in America:

* According to the latest US Department of Justice survey of crime victims, more than 6.6 million violent crimes (murder, rape, assault and robbery) are committed in the US each year, of which about 20 per cent, or 1.3 million, are inter-racial crimes.

* Most victims of race crime - about 90 per cent - are white, according to the survey "Highlights from 20 Years of Surveying Crime Victims", published in 1993.

* Almost 1 million white Americans were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by black Americans in 1992, compared with about 132,000 blacks who were murdered, robbed, assaulted or raped by whites, according to the same survey.

* Blacks thus committed 7.5 times more violent inter-racial crimes than whites even though the black population is only one-seventh the size of the white population. When these figures are adjusted on a per capita basis, they reveal an extraordinary disparity: blacks are committing more than 50 times the number of violent racial crimes of whites.

* According to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks.

These breathtaking disparities began to emerge in the mid-1960's, when there was a sharp increase in black crime against whites, an upsurge which, not coincidentally, corresponds exactly with the beginning of the modern civil rights movement.
Over time, the cumulative effect has been staggering. Justice Department and FBI statistics indicate that between 1964 and 1994 more than 25 million violent inter-racial crimes were committed, overwhelmingly involving black offenders and white victims, and more than 45,000 people were killed in inter-racial murders. By comparisons 58,000 Americans died in Vietnam, and 34,000 were killed in the Korean war.
When non-violent crimes (burglary, larceny, car theft and personal theft) are included, the cumulative totals become prodigious. The Bureau of Justice Statistics says 27 million non-violent crimes were committed in the US in 1992, and the survey found that 31 per cent of the robberies involved black offenders and white victims (while only 2 per cent in the reverse).
When all the crime figures are calculated, it appears that black Americans have committed at least 170 million crimes against white Americans in the past 30 years. It is the great defining disaster of American life and American ideals since World War II.
All these are facts, yet by simply writing this story, by assembling the facts in this way, I would be deemed a racist by the American news media. It prefers to maintain a paternalistic double-standard in its coverage of black America, a lower standard.

[melkor41]

You can find some interesting statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice here:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv ... cv0540.pdf

55 to 56% of violent crimes are committed by white people (90% male), as reported by the victim or witnesses. The only category where blacks are a majority of offenders is completed robbery with injury.

This page shows that victim and offender are more than twice as likely to be the same race as different races:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cv ... cv0542.pdf

What this means in simple terms is that if you are white, and you watch only for threats from non-white people, you leave yourself open to being blind-sided by a white guy. (Which KBCraig already said).

- Jim

I agree, if you only look out for non whites your missing half the threat....

but I think what he was getting at is percentages....

55% of the crimes are done by whites where as make up 75.1% of the population
25.3% of the crimes are commited by blacks and they make up only 12.3% of the population
12.9% of crime done by "other" and other makes up 12.6%

(population numbers were from national census not just texas, but its not that much of a skew)

I think the best thing is what our instructor told us.. humans have some of their animal gifts still.. one is instinct. If a situation makes you feel bad and makes that spidy sense tingle. get out of there.