Adult Establishment Carry

[Charles L. Cotton]

The legality of carrying in such an establishment has pretty well been covered. If there is something that has been missed then I would appreciate it if Stephen would clear it up. Other than that, it'd be very nice if this thread would come to an end.

Chas.

[lawrnk]

The closest I ever came to being mugged was outside of one of those places...

[longtooth]

This is just for conversation as I have never seen this question come up. Is it legal to carry in a BYOB strip club? With it being BYOB, that would mean that none of their income is from the sale of alcohol for on sight consumption, so the 51% is out. Any thoughts?

Legality is the topic of the post. Keep it on the topic. Consider Charles' wishes.

[yerasimos]

One thing I would like to point out before this thread gets locked:

Even if one of these establishments is not 51% or posted 30.06, and you walk in (legally) with a handgun without setting off a metal detector or getting frisked, it is not farfetched for an entertainer to discover that you are carrying a handgun. Nor is it farfetched for said entertainer to tell the manager (or someone else who has authority to speak on behalf of the establishment's owner) that you are carrying a handgun, and for that manager to verbally 30.06 you (the exact verbiage would not matter).

If you stay put, you will likely be charged with trespassing. Going to the parking lot, leaving the handgun in your car and returning may not be a good idea due to location, time of day/night and parking lot traffic. If you came in with friends who do not wish to leave yet, then you have to stay outside the establishment until they are finished; this may not be desirable either. None of these options look good to me.

[papabear]

I cant see any reason to ask this. THere is plenty of gun boards that would like this on their board.

[Bullitt]

I have to agree about staying out of the BYOB places. They are classless.

If this is for a bachelor party then I would suggest one of the classier establishments like The Men's Club or Treasures (in Houston). These places seldom have trouble with patrons. Bouncers abound and are professional at stopping any potential trouble, which rarely happens at these two places. You will be scanned for metal before entry. Valet parking and a very high quality restaurant. You many not carry due to the alcohol sales.

[flb_78]

I would say it's legal to carry into a BYOB place as long as you do not get a dance. If you do get a dance, then it may legally be failure to conceal because you allowed yourself to be put in that situation and knew what happens during those dances and paid for it.

[flb_78]

I disagree. Just like printing is not failure to conceal, I do not think that a persons hand, leg, whatever accidentally grabbing/touching your gun and causing alarm is failure to conceal.

Actually, printing can be considered failure to conceal depending on the situation. If it is just a non-descript bulge, then no, not failure to conceal, but if your wearing a pair of spandex with a full size 1911 shoved in the pocket, then that could be considered failure to conceal because you have not made a "reasonable" attempt to conceal the gun.

It's not exactly an accident when you are paying them to do it. Lap dances are known to have intimate contact. Now if some chick at the park sat down on your lap and felt your gun, then no, that would not be failure to conceal, but paying a woman to dance on you and finding your gun would most likely be failure to conceal.

[Keith B]

OK, this is still off topic. The topic is legal or not to carry in the establishment, PERIOD! No other discussion on printing or the gun being discovered. Last warning.

[flb_78]

OK, this is still off topic. The topic is legal or not to carry in the establishment, PERIOD! No other discussion on printing or the gun being discovered. Last warning.

How can you have a discussion about legal carrying into the establishment and not mention the chance are/or circumstances in which it may be discovered?

Once again, I believe it would be legal to carry into the establishment if you plan on being the designated driver/moral guy. If you plan on partaking of the services offered at the establishment, then I would think it could be illegal because of the likelyhood of the gun being discovered by the entertainer.

[Keith B]

Intentional failure to conceal is not connected with whether it is legal by law to carry in an establishment. Being discovered carrying or not concealing, whether it is in a club, the local stop and rob or Wal-Mart is a separate issue and not part of the OP's topic. Legality of carrying in the establishment is the topic that is being discussed, that is all.

To put it back on topic, IMO, if it is not posted 30.06 or an establishment licensed as 51%, then it is not off limits by the laws. And unless you have received verbal notice, then you can legally carry there.

[flb_78]

To put it back on topic, IMO, if it is not posted 30.06 or an establishment licensed as 51%, then it is not off limits by the laws. And unless you have received verbal notice, then you can legally carry there.

+1 but.........Ah heck, never mind.

[dukalmighty]

If you byob and drink to intoxication aren't there laws against carrying while under the influence,if you are gonna drink leave it at home or designate a designated driver, designated bodyguard