As the AP now reports...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/ ... CTION=HOME
"Unsuccessful robber shoots self in foot
CHERRYVILLE, N.C. (AP) -- Authorities said an unsuccessful robber shot himself in the foot ... by shooting himself in the foot. Police said Kelvin Ethelbert Roberts, 28, botched his plans to rob a Cherryville convenience store by accidentally shooting his right foot.
According to an arrest warrant, Roberts dropped a .45-caliber handgun in front of Gasland USA on Sunday. The gun hit the ground and went off, a bullet striking Roberts in the foot.
Roberts faces several charges that include attempted robbery with a dangerous weapon and possession of a weapon of mass destruction. Police said the handgun had been altered to fire .410 shotgun shells.
Authorities said Roberts was in illegal possession of the gun because of his felony cocaine possession conviction in 2002 in Chautauqua County, New York.
Cherryville is about 40 miles northwest of Charlotte."
emphasis mine. --sparx
.410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
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Re: .410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
possession of a weapon of mass destruction.
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Re: .410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
Well, I knew that when I got my first .410 at age 10!
Maybe that is the problem we had in Iraq, they couldn't find any .410's, just IED's. Sheesh!!
Maybe that is the problem we had in Iraq, they couldn't find any .410's, just IED's. Sheesh!!
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Re: .410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
had mine since about 10yrs old too... to the squirrels and rabbits, it's probably thought of as a WMD...Keith B wrote:Well, I knew that when I got my first .410 at age 10!
Maybe that is the problem we had in Iraq, they couldn't find any .410's, just IED's. Sheesh!!
None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but licence.
John Milton
John Milton
Re: .410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
Well, maybe it is! Excerpt from http://www.ncdoj.com/DocumentStreamerCl ... MSLAWS.pdf
......B. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
North Carolina General Statute § 14-288.8 provides that it is unlawful for any person
to manufacture, assemble, possess, store, transport, sell, offer to sell, purchase, offer to
purchase, deliver, give to another, or acquire any weapon of mass death and destruction.
A weapon of mass death and destruction includes:
(1) bombs of all sorts;
(2) grenades;
(3) rockets having a propellant charge of more than 4 ounces;
(4) a missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce;
(5) mine;
(6) any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell of a type particularly suitable for sporting purposes) which will expel a projectile using an explosive or other propellant and which has a barrel with a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter;
(7) any firearm capable of fully automatic fire;
(8) any shotgun with a barrel length less than eighteen inches or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
(9) a rifle with a barrel length of less than sixteen inches or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
(10) any muffler or silencer for any firearm, whether or not such firearm is included within this definition;
(11) any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting a device into any weapon described above and from which a weapon of mass death and destruction may readily be assembled.
Thus, a device which could convert a semi-automatic firearm into one capable of fully
automatic fire, would be in violation of this statute, whether or not one actually possesses
23 such a weapon. The possession of the device itself is a crime. If any person possesses a
weapon of mass death and destruction in violation of this statute, he would be guilty of a
Class I Felony.
The only persons capable of owning or possessing a weapon of mass death and
destruction, as defined above, are the following:
(1) Persons exempted from the provisions of carrying a concealed
weapon in North Carolina with respect to any activity lawfully
engaged in while carrying out their duties;
(2) Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms,
ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the
laws of the United States or the
State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under
their licenses;
(3) Persons under contract with the United States, the State of
North Carolina, or any agency of either government, with
respect to any activities lawfully engaged in under their
contracts; or
(4) Inventors, designers, ordinance consultants and researchers,
chemists, physicists, and other persons lawfully engaged in
pursuits designed to enlarge the knowledge of or to facilitate the
creation, development, or manufacture of weapons of mass
death and destruction intended for use in a manner consistent
with the laws of the United States and the State of North
Carolina.
......B. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
North Carolina General Statute § 14-288.8 provides that it is unlawful for any person
to manufacture, assemble, possess, store, transport, sell, offer to sell, purchase, offer to
purchase, deliver, give to another, or acquire any weapon of mass death and destruction.
A weapon of mass death and destruction includes:
(1) bombs of all sorts;
(2) grenades;
(3) rockets having a propellant charge of more than 4 ounces;
(4) a missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce;
(5) mine;
(6) any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell of a type particularly suitable for sporting purposes) which will expel a projectile using an explosive or other propellant and which has a barrel with a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter;
(7) any firearm capable of fully automatic fire;
(8) any shotgun with a barrel length less than eighteen inches or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
(9) a rifle with a barrel length of less than sixteen inches or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
(10) any muffler or silencer for any firearm, whether or not such firearm is included within this definition;
(11) any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting a device into any weapon described above and from which a weapon of mass death and destruction may readily be assembled.
Thus, a device which could convert a semi-automatic firearm into one capable of fully
automatic fire, would be in violation of this statute, whether or not one actually possesses
23 such a weapon. The possession of the device itself is a crime. If any person possesses a
weapon of mass death and destruction in violation of this statute, he would be guilty of a
Class I Felony.
The only persons capable of owning or possessing a weapon of mass death and
destruction, as defined above, are the following:
(1) Persons exempted from the provisions of carrying a concealed
weapon in North Carolina with respect to any activity lawfully
engaged in while carrying out their duties;
(2) Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms,
ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the
laws of the United States or the
State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under
their licenses;
(3) Persons under contract with the United States, the State of
North Carolina, or any agency of either government, with
respect to any activities lawfully engaged in under their
contracts; or
(4) Inventors, designers, ordinance consultants and researchers,
chemists, physicists, and other persons lawfully engaged in
pursuits designed to enlarge the knowledge of or to facilitate the
creation, development, or manufacture of weapons of mass
death and destruction intended for use in a manner consistent
with the laws of the United States and the State of North
Carolina.
Keith
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
Psalm 82:3-4
Texas LTC Instructor, Missouri CCW Instructor, NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun Instructor and RSO, NRA Life Member
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Re: .410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
What about the Taurus Judge. It is chambered for both 45 colt and .410 shells. Is it not sold there because it's a weapon of mass destruction?Keith B wrote:Well, maybe it is! Excerpt from http://www.ncdoj.com/DocumentStreamerCl ... MSLAWS.pdf
......B. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
North Carolina General Statute § 14-288.8 provides that it is unlawful for any person
to manufacture, assemble, possess, store, transport, sell, offer to sell, purchase, offer to
purchase, deliver, give to another, or acquire any weapon of mass death and destruction.
A weapon of mass death and destruction includes:
(1) bombs of all sorts;
(2) grenades;
(3) rockets having a propellant charge of more than 4 ounces;
(4) a missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce;
(5) mine;
(6) any type of weapon (other than a shotgun or a shotgun shell of a type particularly suitable for sporting purposes) which will expel a projectile using an explosive or other propellant and which has a barrel with a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter;
(7) any firearm capable of fully automatic fire;
(8) any shotgun with a barrel length less than eighteen inches or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
(9) a rifle with a barrel length of less than sixteen inches or an overall length of less than twenty-six inches;
(10) any muffler or silencer for any firearm, whether or not such firearm is included within this definition;
(11) any combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting a device into any weapon described above and from which a weapon of mass death and destruction may readily be assembled.
Thus, a device which could convert a semi-automatic firearm into one capable of fully
automatic fire, would be in violation of this statute, whether or not one actually possesses
23 such a weapon. The possession of the device itself is a crime. If any person possesses a
weapon of mass death and destruction in violation of this statute, he would be guilty of a
Class I Felony.
The only persons capable of owning or possessing a weapon of mass death and
destruction, as defined above, are the following:
(1) Persons exempted from the provisions of carrying a concealed
weapon in North Carolina with respect to any activity lawfully
engaged in while carrying out their duties;
(2) Importers, manufacturers, dealers, and collectors of firearms,
ammunition, or destructive devices validly licensed under the
laws of the United States or the
State of North Carolina, while lawfully engaged in activities authorized under
their licenses;
(3) Persons under contract with the United States, the State of
North Carolina, or any agency of either government, with
respect to any activities lawfully engaged in under their
contracts; or
(4) Inventors, designers, ordinance consultants and researchers,
chemists, physicists, and other persons lawfully engaged in
pursuits designed to enlarge the knowledge of or to facilitate the
creation, development, or manufacture of weapons of mass
death and destruction intended for use in a manner consistent
with the laws of the United States and the State of North
Carolina.
Re: .410 Now Considered a "Weapon of Mass Destruction"
The following thread was started before this one. Double post.
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 26&t=13061
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... 26&t=13061