Well, today while working, I got bored :) acutally more like sleepy and feeling tired. So I decided to take a range break. While going thru my 3rd magazine, I remembered an advise from the net (can't remember where I read it):
Aim below the bulleye at its 6 o'clock position to get a consistent aim. I.e. the bulleye is a black dot, so you aim below it instead of in the middle of it. (I've always been aiming on the bulleye, which at 7 yds is very large and there's lots of room to move and still be inside it.)
Anyway, so I put 4 shots into the same hole at 7yds and the 5th shot when 1/2 way in using the method above. I was amazed. Unfortunately, my next 5 bullets didn't learn anthing from the first 5.
I'm so excited that I think I'll be heading to the range again after work and try to duplicate what I did.
This is the first time where I got 4 consecutive bulltes into the same hole and a 5th one almost in it. Some more info for the curious: gun used SigPro 2009, ammo was Blazer AL.
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They call these the "center of mass" hold and the "six o'clock" hold - and either one can work fine.
You might want to try something - sounds silly, but do not look at the target. Focus on the front sight; let the bullseye blur if it wants to. Admire how crisp and sharp the top and edges of your front sight are, how well centered in the rear notch the crisp, clear front blade is, and how even with the top of the notch the perfectly focussed front sight is - and actuate the trigger without disturbing the sight.
I'm not qualified to give advice since I'm not that great a shot - but this works. You will read it from all sorts of people who actually do know what they are talking about, not just from me. It is for target shooting, not for "combat" or for fighting - although some will say the fundamentals are the same for both. I don't know anything about fighting, but for target shooting, focus on the front sight; alignment, firm grip, and the only pressure is on the pad - or whichever part of your trigger finger you use on the trigger.
Have fun!
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Andrew
You might want to try something - sounds silly, but do not look at the target. Focus on the front sight; let the bullseye blur if it wants to. Admire how crisp and sharp the top and edges of your front sight are, how well centered in the rear notch the crisp, clear front blade is, and how even with the top of the notch the perfectly focussed front sight is - and actuate the trigger without disturbing the sight.
I'm not qualified to give advice since I'm not that great a shot - but this works. You will read it from all sorts of people who actually do know what they are talking about, not just from me. It is for target shooting, not for "combat" or for fighting - although some will say the fundamentals are the same for both. I don't know anything about fighting, but for target shooting, focus on the front sight; alignment, firm grip, and the only pressure is on the pad - or whichever part of your trigger finger you use on the trigger.
Have fun!
Regards,
Andrew
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Focus on the front sight
Thanks BobCat.
The techniques you described does work, and I've been using them for the past few months. Using the techniques in your suggestions, I had a big improvement in my shooting results. However, I reached a plateau of sorts, and my groups (patterns) remained at about 1-2" at 7yds.
Once I picked up the aim suggested in my above post, my group gets down to 1" today. Since I didn't find this info in the beginning, I thought it may be not very well known and decided to post. Also, I was very excited about I (hopefully not due to luck) achievement.
I also read that when shooting, you are not supposed to see where your bullets struck and should hold your breath when squeezing the trigger. I'll add these to my test tonight.
Thanks for adding these suggestions.
The techniques you described does work, and I've been using them for the past few months. Using the techniques in your suggestions, I had a big improvement in my shooting results. However, I reached a plateau of sorts, and my groups (patterns) remained at about 1-2" at 7yds.
Once I picked up the aim suggested in my above post, my group gets down to 1" today. Since I didn't find this info in the beginning, I thought it may be not very well known and decided to post. Also, I was very excited about I (hopefully not due to luck) achievement.
I also read that when shooting, you are not supposed to see where your bullets struck and should hold your breath when squeezing the trigger. I'll add these to my test tonight.
Thanks for adding these suggestions.
Ok, it was mostly luck
Just want to follow up on my original post regarding a break thru on my shooting. After 7 range trips and shooting 80-150 rnds each, I was not able to repeat my initial success (actually didn't come near).
In fact, after a few range sessions, I started to get worse. However, I
am able to keep the 7yd groups at 1", which was much better than my
old 2" and I'm able to shoot better 1 handed than 2 recently.
In fact, after a few range sessions, I started to get worse. However, I
am able to keep the 7yd groups at 1", which was much better than my
old 2" and I'm able to shoot better 1 handed than 2 recently.
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Re: Ok, it was mostly luck
I'm not a great shot and I have terrible eyes (progressive lens glasses), but when i get frustrated with my grouping, I move out further. Try shooting at 15 yards and concentrating on tighter groups. When you go back to 7 yards, you'll be impressed with the difference. I like the shoot and see stick on targets... they help alot as far as seeing where you are shooting.j1132s wrote:Just want to follow up on my original post regarding a break thru on my shooting. After 7 range trips and shooting 80-150 rnds each, I was not able to repeat my initial success (actually didn't come near).
In fact, after a few range sessions, I started to get worse. However, I
am able to keep the 7yd groups at 1", which was much better than my
old 2" and I'm able to shoot better 1 handed than 2 recently.
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Re: How to aim
Jason...I figured that same thing out about a month ago, I really never knew to do that until one day I was reading on the internet the procedure you described. I do much better now (although with my shaky hands I doubt I can do two thru the same hole) than I used to!j1132s wrote:Well, today while working, I got bored :) acutally more like sleepy and feeling tired. So I decided to take a range break. While going thru my 3rd magazine, I remembered an advise from the net (can't remember where I read it):
Aim below the bulleye at its 6 o'clock position to get a consistent aim. I.e. the bulleye is a black dot, so you aim below it instead of in the middle of it. (I've always been aiming on the bulleye, which at 7 yds is very large and there's lots of room to move and still be inside it.)
Anyway, so I put 4 shots into the same hole at 7yds and the 5th shot when 1/2 way in using the method above. I was amazed. Unfortunately, my next 5 bullets didn't learn anthing from the first 5.
I'm so excited that I think I'll be heading to the range again after work and try to duplicate what I did.
This is the first time where I got 4 consecutive bulltes into the same hole and a 5th one almost in it. Some more info for the curious: gun used SigPro 2009, ammo was Blazer AL.
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I agree 100%!BobCat wrote:
You might want to try something - sounds silly, but do not look at the target. Focus on the front sight; let the bullseye blur if it wants to. Admire how crisp and sharp the top and edges of your front sight are, how well centered in the rear notch the crisp, clear front blade is, and how even with the top of the notch the perfectly focussed front sight is - and actuate the trigger without disturbing the sight.
This is how I've been trying to train. The above mentioned sighting procedure combined with the proper grip and hold produce the best groups, slow fire or double taps, for me anyways. I'm trying to train this way every trip to the range, but I find that I still have to remind myself to focus on the front sight. I've read somewhere that while shooting the only thought going through your mind should be "front sight, trigger, front sight, trigger, front sight, trigger", this is what I practice and it has improved my shooting.
JLaw.